Kirito tries soloing Bleach

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

Because shaking the universe is range, and the energy needed to pull off such a thing, and I do believe there was a calc, is only 4-A.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Did you at least know how incarnation work? You are just wanking it at the moment.

Yes, and id like to know how universal scale reality warping stopping an ability thats never nulled anything remotely close to that scale is wank.

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

Is not even wanking, so let's not use the word. This is just a difference of term.

The problem here is that Incarnation only has universal range not universal AP, and not even universal in the timeline sense, but in the physical universe sense. And powernull isn't gonna care about AP that isn't low 2-C or higher, much less range.

 

[Tyri456]

Actually, you are the one that has to prove incarnation can do something against passive abilities

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Because shaking the universe is range, and the energy needed to pull off such a thing, and I do believe there was a calc, is only 4-A.

Yeah, but the actual quality of the ability is Universal. Incarnation alters the universe to an extent, as the ability says it does. Kirito shaking the universe falls under that.

And even then, that was very casual and Kirito is apparently so high into 4-A he almost reaches 3-C.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Actually, you are the one that has to prove incarnation can do something against passive abilities

Passive has nothing to do with this.

Im arguing the null just wouldnt do anything to Incarnation, unless Reio's null has feats of nulling an ability that works on a stellar-universal scale.

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

But it isn't low 2-C.

It isn't dimensionally above or anything like that, so it's magnitude is completely irrelevant. It's range even more since the range of an ability has nothing to do with it's potential to be nulled.

Ask the pertinent question, what does raw power have to do with it being potentially nulled? Nothing. Raw AP doesn't give resistance to nulling.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

He gets soul crushed dude lol, nothing else matters.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Incarnation warps reality though Lance. Thats not affecting the physical aspect of the universe, but the universe itself.

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

Completely and utterly irrelevant. No power gets resistance to stuff for it's own sake, so it falls to the limitations of the power null.

Almighty can literally negate everything we've seen in Bleach, up to and including Ichibe's outright conceptual manipulation and Gremmy's imagination-based reality warping. So this gets affected the very same.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Incarnation doesnt help against Soul Crush since the possibilities of kirito surviving the crush is literally 0

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

This isn't a matter of resistance Lance, its that the ability's magnitude of what it can effect is above what the powernull can actually null. Unless, again, Almighty has feats of nulling stellar-universal abilities.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Also incarnation has zero feats against passive abilities and the range of the ability is still inferior to the range of the soul king
Attack potency is irrelevant

Again, it being passive is irrelevant. Im saying the ability just wouldn't do anything.

And no, the range of the Almightys null isn't Low Multiversal. Your cross-scaling the range of different abilities.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Kirito can warp all reality he wants, he still gets crushed since Incarnation doesnt prevent him from dying from passives

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

This always turns to some sort of Bleach crt when Kukui is involved...

@Schnee

This should prob be locked, pretty much a stomp.

 

[Aernasilver]

Man. Kukui always inventing new stuff. Everyone agrees that the null is based on what it nulls but somehow Kukui says it's based on range.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Funny how you get personal with me whenever I don't side with you on something Bleach related.

But yeah, this should probably just be closed.

 

[Tyri456]

Kukui think whatever you want, actually 7 people out of 8 agreed this is a stomp, we already explained why this is a stomp you are just arguing randomly.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Can I close it, dads?

 

[Schnee_One]

This isn't Kukui wanking incarnation, however I do think it's a big misunderstanding

Range has almost nothing to do with potency of powernull, it has to do with the abilities it has affected and nulled compared to the potency of Kirito's incarnation

Incarnation is low level reality warping, but VERY low level and it has rather limited uses, compared to something Almighty has nulled it's nothing it can't handle

All of this is meaningless because Soul King can Reiatsu Crush him and other ways he has to win and Kirito has no win con

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Actually, I just remembered. Kirito in this key apparently has Quintella's abilities too.

And she has power null, law manip and power mimicry on pretty good levels.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

SK has all those abilities as well

 

[Schnee_One]

Resisted

Resisted

Soul King has as well

Also Precog

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Range has almost nothing to do with potency of powernull, it has to do with the abilities it has affected and nulled compared to the potency of Kirito's incarnatio

Just to let the record reflect, this is actually exactly what im talking about. And is why im disagreeing with everyone else on this.

The abilities Almighty has nulled have nowhere remotely close to the potency of Incarnation (well, Kiritos anyway). And seeing as Reios the only character in Bleach to affect stuff on stellar levels, you should understand why I think the former.

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

They all get seen with precog and nulled, so still irrelevant.

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

By potency you are referring to is AP and range, stuff hax already doesn't care about.

Kukui, I hope I don't have to explain this, but range and AP is completely irrelevant when it comes to power null. It is Reality Warping, and not even really absurd reality warping, which Gremmy already has. There's no unreal potency here.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Resisted
Resisted

Soul King has as well

He doesn't resist power mimicry from what this tells me. And Quintella's power mimicry is glance-based by copying all powers the user has ever used in their life.

Kirito's is upscaled from hers.

 

[Schnee_One]

Never said he did, but power mimicry doesn't give him a win condition.

He has no way to put down SK

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

Perfect, so Almighty sees him doing this and it gets power nulled.

Do you actually know what Almighty is and how it works?

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

By potency you are referring to is AP and range, stuff hax already doesn't care about.
Kukui, I hope I don't have to explain this, but range and AP is completely irrelevant when it comes to power null. It is Reality Warping, and not even really absurd reality warping, which Gremmy already has. There's no unreal potency here.

By "potency of Incarnation" I meant how the good the ability is. Not AP.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Never said he did, but power mimicry doesn't give him a win condition.
He has no way to put down SK

Gaining Almighty from the mimicry wouldnt help?

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

But the ability isn't very good. That is a range feat, with an AP value.

What other qualitative thing does it have describing it as potent? What is potency to you? How is this a derivation of potence when all that we can get from it is that Kirito can cause 4-A amounts of energy and that his range is universal, both things power null doesn't care about?

There is a lot of unspoken assumptions that you are making here and that I am not following at all.

 

[Tyri456]

Actually, I just remembered. Kirito in this key apparently has Quintella's abilities too.
And she has power null, law manip and power mimicry on pretty good levels.

Another bunch of abilities that will get passively nulled


can we close this? The soul king just soul crush him

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Why does he continue to pretend like he doesn't get crushed?

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

You can't see someone mimic powers through a glance. So I highly doubt the ability would get nulled.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

he see's it in the future dude, what are you going on about lol

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

What other qualitative thing does it have describing it as potent?

Incarnation effects the universe. The powers the Almighty has nulled do not. Kirito's Incarnation >>>>> basic.

 

[Tyri456]

What? Do you even know how almighty works?

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

he see's it in the future dude, what are you going on about lol

And? What would Reio see? Kirito standing there glancing at him. Not the actual ability.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

what in the world...?