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Kirby tier revision+discussion

Arceus0x

Arceus0x

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Sup, people said it should be a separate CRT so i decided to make it now so the tiers can be discussed.

What is there to revise?

First off, there are 4 important calcs:
Magolor spins the battlefield - 3-B, Multi-galactic LS
Zero KE - 5-A
Nova KE - 5-A, Class Z LS
Nightmare nukes the moon - 5-C

Now what would this do?
This would make every post RtDL boss 3-B, every pre-KDL3 final boss boss 5-C and every post KDL3 to KCC boss and kirby profile 5-A. Nova is now 5-A and has Class Z LS since it can push back the sun and the moon which can push the nova back. Additionally, all post star-allies profiles would get 4x the 3-B.

Now what is there to discuss?
-We need to discuss whether we should bring back the 120x multiplier for star allies like we had before when kirby was 4-A to 3-C
-We need to discuss whether it is okay to scale kirby's moon to a higher diameter since this isn't the earth's moon and it is shown to be very large, in which case i have a re-calc of dragon's calc at ready
-We need to discuss whether we should scale the 5-A statistics of Nova to Marx Soul

Additionally there are a few calcs that can be created, specifically the dark matter explosions and ke in kirby 64.

That is all.
 
The 120x multiplier comes from one Jamba Heart being 3-B right? In that case, I don't see why it wouldn't make sense
 
Also I added an end to the calc that's 3-A, for the people that just really hate pixel scaling, in case anyone's interested
 
Obtaining Popstar's size via assuming that blue planet on the overworld is Earth size is a pretty hefty assumption to randomly allow. How exactly are you getting that idea that its Earth sized? I really don't prefer it even using the overworld to begin with, since the scale is funky in such situations.
 
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Mephistus said:
Obtaining Popstar's size via assuming that blue planet on the overworld is Earth size is a pretty hefty assumption to randomly allow. How exactly are you getting that idea that its Earth sized?
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Default assumption for planets, especially since that one looks the most like Earth
 
Mephistus said:
these defaults aren't applicable here imo.
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That's literally how we do these calcs. And it'd be even less accurate to default to Earth size for Popstar with how many times in canon it's referred to as a large planet. This is the most accurate way to handle this.
 
CloverDragon03 said:
Waiting on evaluations. I put the feat into the evaluations thread
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Mention that it has been edited already so it needs additional evaluation as otherwise people are gonna see a calc member saying it's good and not caring for the calc anymore
 
Psychomaster accepted the 3-A end.

So kirby will be

5-A | 3-A, likely 2-C | At least 3-A, likely 2-C

His first key scales to 10738.48x baseline 3-A
His second key scales 120x the 3-A feat and is thus 1288617.56x baseline
 
Okay. I'll also work on adding the end to the Nightmare calc involving the calculated moon diameter.
 
Also it's a pity that the 3-A calc is vastly above Asura's Wrath's 3-A calc, otherwise I'd pit 3-A Kirby vs 3-A Asura
 
Can we please put in these two accepted 5-A calcs already?!

Also, what's the verdict on the Magolor spinning calc?
 
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