KH stats/Scaling for Jack?

[Marcman2020]

Doesn't Jack scale to the heavy hitters of the Kingdom Hearts cast?

The logic I've heard is:

He's Massively FTL+ due to being scalable to Sora as well as the heartless themselves. Even the weakness heartless (as in, the shadow heartless who Sora can easily speed blitz/one shot) are Massively FTL+ due to being able to react to Sora's attacks and being able to travel between worlds with their sheer speed alone.

Also is the idea that Jack and Sora are able to cordinate their movements for a special attack, meaning Jack must be moving as fast as Sora during the heat of battle in order to catch him/dance around with him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJkzz5lvbT0

On that note, since Jack is able to hurt the heartless who are able to hurt Sora, wouldn't that put him at Large Star level as well? If Sora is Large Star Level in terms of durability, and the heartless are capable of hurting him (thus making them a threat), and Jack is able to take down said heartless: doesn't that mean that the scaling applies to Jack too?

I don't know what to think, but it's something people have debated and I have no idea what to think of this scaling.

 

[Dark649]

I'm not kidding we had a Tier 4 Kingdom Hearts page for Jack, but when i made one for Clayton. They were deleted since Sora adapts his power to said world, so Sora is not tier 4 in the worlds he visits but only outside.

 

[Marcman2020]

I'm not kidding we had a Tier 4 Kingdom Hearts page for Jack, but when i made one for Clayton. They were deleted since Sora adapts his power to said world, so Sora is not tier 4 in the worlds he visits but only outside.

Does the same logic also apply to the heartless? Or does their strength vary?

Again, I'm told that even the mook heartless are insanely OP despite Sora being able to one shot/blitz them with ease

 

[Dark649]

Does the same logic also apply to the heartless? Or does their strength vary?

Again, I'm told that even the mook heartless are insanely OP despite Sora being able to one shot/blitz them with ease

It varies on the class of the Heartless since the bosses Heartless are vaslty above the common weaker one, some weak Heartless are able to kill Sora through game mechanic like the common Koopa's don't scale to Mario for doing the same.

 

[Marcman2020]

Does the same logic also apply to the heartless? Or does their strength vary?

Again, I'm told that even the mook heartless are insanely OP despite Sora being able to one shot/blitz them with ease

It varies on the class of the Heartless since the bosses Heartless are vaslty above the common weaker one, some weak Heartless are able to kill Sora through game mechanic like the common Koopa's don't scale to Mario for doing the same.

So the heartless that Jack fights/takes down can't be scaled to Sora's max speed and power either?

 

[Dark649]

So the heartless that Jack fights/takes down can't be scaled to Sora's max speed and power either?

I'm not sure but the Jack in KH seems to be stronger than his Movie counterpart since he can cast some type of magic and fight the Heartless, something he did not as i'm aware in the movie.

 

[Marcman2020]

So the heartless that Jack fights/takes down can't be scaled to Sora's max speed and power either?

I'm not sure but the Jack in KH seems to be stronger than his Movie counterpart since he can cast some type of magic and fight the Heartless, something he did not as i'm aware in the movie.

Well yes, he has several spells in KH he doesn't use in the movie (or any other game):

Blazing Fury: Launches a fire ball at an enemy. Can also surround himself with three spinning fiery jack-o-lanterns and charge into enemies to burn them.

Icey Terror: Shoots out a burst of ice crystals

Bolts of Sorrow: Conjures a variety of thunder bolts to continually strike opponents

Ghostly scream: Can summon dark spheres that envelop enemies inside before shrinking down and crush them inside (Might be spiritual in nature, as the japanese name translates to "Spirits Crushing the Self")

They're variations of spells that other characters use. Some people might argue that Ghostly Scream is the same as gravity (I.E. using the power of the stars to create event horizons) but the way the move is described might mean that it makes use of spirits/ghosts opposed to stars.

Also a thing to note is that his spells/attacks vary between KH games (KH1 had Ghostly Scream and Blazing fury was just a generic fireball.)

 

[Dark649]

You can ask to Reppuza, if it is possible to make profiles for them but not scaling them to Sora.

 

[Eldi_Osmenaj]

Em..sorry for going a bit off topic,but we're still talking about game jack and i had an idea that might prove he's souless.In Boogies revenge Jack was completly unaffected from holding the soul robber in his hand the entire game.