Kamen Rider Blades vs Youmu Konpaku

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FREEZE MY LOVE​

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(Dance In The Snow Petal)​

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Oh yeah, looks like Touhou vs Kamen Rider can be a thing
....Albeit very limited for a certain tier and haxes lel, but still i'll take it nonetheless

I feel like only some of the MC Gang that can be used often due of their fairness abilities (Marisa and Youmu) and then Sumireko, beside that HahAHAhaHaHahaHa MiD-gOdLy ReGeN Go BrRrRrRrRrR-
"BuT VEloX- i mean Meg.....WhY DoN'T JuSt WoNDeR GuArDian SaBe-"
Wonder Guardian Saber is too much you bucko, and beside that i don't want go get an MIGRAINE for an ultimate hax vs ultimate hax......maybe i can make Yukari vs WG Saber now i think about it....

Anyway i feel like Youmu is seems fun to be used for a matches, so expect some of a spam with her if i can find a good opponents in tier 2, gonna cracking up those matches for the phantom gardener i tell you there lel
And for the Riders, i'm thorn between sabela or Blades but in the end i decided to go with Rintarou instead because the thematic reason like Cherry Blossom in the zero winter theme and others thing like that....thanks Glay

And without any further wait, let's get to the battle between the Absolute Zero Winter Swordmaster against the Phantom Gardener Swordmaster!

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Winter....
A Beautiful Season yet could be an Terrifying Season as well depend on the weather mood, the snow that fallen to the earth would became an such of amazing views for our sight...
Especially if it's on the hibernated Sakura Tree....the gorgeous and melancholic feeling you could get from it are mesmerizing....

However, right now it's not about the panorama we're focusing on....
As at the moment, the two great swordmasters has met each others in the Sakura Trees Road, somewhere around the fantasical world of Gensokyo
The Saigyou Servant, the Gardener of Spiritual Garden with her two trusted Katana, worth of thousand ways of experiences, from her gramps to her long journeys with the gang for solved the incidents in Gensokyo

Youmu Konpaku....The Phantom-Human​

In front of her, stood an human in a white armor, with the lioness shape, with the mane on his head waved due of the cold wind blowing, alongside his trusted holy sword with water/ice elemental on it
The Co-Leader of Sword of Logos, the Water Swordman that swore to protect the world alongside his trusted friends and the one he love, together with his seiken that tore an thousands way of experiences, from every of his journeys, from the Megids War to defeated the Grimoire....

Shindo Rintarou, Kamen Rider Blades....The Water Swordman​

Both of them were in a intense duel, with their sword clashed, an cold spiritual pressure can be sensed
A duel of swordmasters between the Incident Solver against the Holy Swordmaster that accidently being transported by an unknown power, being targetted due of the fear of threat, he has no choice but defend himself, and coincidently it was Youmu who first noticed him

The duel raged on, so does their determination and will, who's going to emerged victorious here!? The pride of the swords they held are in the pinch! This is not a battle for defended himself anymore, it's a worthy battle between two of great swordmaster!

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• 2-C Youmu is used and this is EoS (Storius Arc to Post-Series/Trio of Deep Sin) Blades being used
• Speed are equalized
• Both are in-characters
• Battlefield take in the place of: Somewhere around the Gensokyo, the Road with Sakura Trees in every sight at the Winter Season
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• Staring Distance: 10 Meters
• Win via anything!!
• The Absolute Zero Swordmaster: 7 (Fuji, Myself, Ixa, Pokemon, Harith, Doggo, Ret)
• The Phantom Swordmaster: 0
• Inconclusive: 1 (Pikmin)

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VS

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• BATTLE THEME 1: SMOKING HOT​

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• BATTLE THEME 2: STAND UNRIVALED​

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• BATTLE THEME 3: SAMURAI GHOST GIRL, KILL! KILL! KILL!

• PRE-CLIMAX THEME:BASILISK - KOUGA NINPOU CHOU OPENING​

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• CLIMAX THEME 1: MIRROR OF THE WORLD​

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• CLIMAX THEME 2: IF YOU WERE HERE​

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• CLIMAX THEME 3: EDELWEISS​

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• ENDING AND EPILOUGE: -ELIS-​

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[Kirbonic_Pikmin]

What would Blades’ most likely starting moves be?

And how well does he resist layered soul Manip?

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Does the touhou character have mid godly stuff again.

and I don’t see blade resisting soul hax

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

What would Blades’ most likely starting moves be?

And how well does he resist layered soul Manip?

Basically, with his final form he start with "1001" way to absolute zero'd the f*** out of your misery, like created an entire battlefield made out from the absolute zero for example

Does the touhou character have mid godly stuff again.

Youmu case is similar with Sumeriko case iirc

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Youmu case is similar with Sumeriko case iirc

Okay thanks

 

[Kirbonic_Pikmin]

Youmu is weird because she’s half human half phantom. Her phantom half could potentially continue fighting even if her human half were to be killed iirc, and her phantom half can form into a full duplication of Youmu as well, so this fight could quickly become a 2v1. While Youmu’s human body could die from physical destruction, her phantom half likely isn’t as likely.

so I’m not sure if Youmu has ever resisted absolute zero colds, but she can resist colds in general as her phantom half induced frostbite.

Does Blades resist death manipulation? I’m pretty sure even being near Youmu’s phantom half for long could pose a threat to him.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Youmu is weird because she’s half human half phantom. Her phantom half could potentially continue fighting even if her human half were to be killed iirc, and her phantom half can form into a full duplication of Youmu as well, so this fight could quickly become a 2v1. While Youmu’s human body could die from physical destruction, her phantom half likely isn’t as likely.

so I’m not sure if Youmu has ever resisted absolute zero colds, but she can resist colds in general as her phantom half induced frostbite.

Does Blades resist death manipulation? I’m pretty sure even being near Youmu’s phantom half for long could pose a threat to him.

How long does the death hax work?

is it instant or takes a couple of minutes/seconds

 

[Kirbonic_Pikmin]

How long does the death hax work?

is it instant or takes a couple of minutes/seconds

Oops I misremembered, death haxx isn't on her profile for some reason she only resists it.

Anyways right now I'm leaning towards Youmu. Her range with danmaku is huge, Blades doesn't have a resistance to layered soul / mind / emphatic manip meaning he'd be on the downhill with every hit Youmu lands before his inevitable death, Blades doesn't have a way to kill her Phantom half for good meaning Youmu could stay at a range launching off danmaku while her phantom half closes the distance for melee attacks, eventually he would be worn down before he could land an absolute zero kill on Youmu. Her ability to slow down time would also give plenty of chances for decisive blows as well.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Oops I misremembered, death haxx isn't on her profile for some reason she only resists it.

Anyways right now I'm leaning towards Youmu. Her range with danmaku is huge, Blades doesn't have a resistance to layered soul / mind / emphatic manip meaning he'd be on the downhill with every hit Youmu lands before his inevitable death, Blades doesn't have a way to kill her Phantom half for good meaning Youmu could stay at a range launching off danmaku while her phantom half closes the distance for melee attacks, eventually he would be worn down before he could land an absolute zero kill on Youmu. Her ability to slow down time would also give plenty of chances for decisive blows as well.

It’s okay if you misremember.


any i vote youmu for pikmin’s reasons

 

[IxaSaga2]

Blades should be able to interact with her Phantom because Saber Riders can interact with Revice Demons which are multiple layered intangible, ghost/spirit like beings.

 

[Kirbonic_Pikmin]

Blades should be able to interact with her Phantom because Saber Riders can interact with Revice Demons which are multiple layered intangible, ghost/spirit like beings.

I don’t think NPI is on his profile but I’ll allow this

Would he be able to bypass the phantom half’s mid godly regeneration though?

 

[IxaSaga2]

I don’t think NPI sis on his profile but I’ll allow this

Would be be able to bypass the phantom half’s mid godly regeneration though?

It's part of his civilian abilities and I'm not sure how the Phantom's Mid Godly works so I'll need an explanation of that. Maybe I missed it but I can't find her Regen in her profile.

I should also probably give a more concrete argument for Blades.
Since he has NPI + AZ, he should be able to freeze any incoming attacks from the Danmaku, or freeze any defensive systems she has. This is because she doesn't have res to AZ which is a complete different beast than any other freezing. Also because of his AZ zone, if Youmu's phantom gets close to him, it'll just freeze and completely shatter.

 

[Kirbonic_Pikmin]

It's part of his civilian abilities and I'm not sure how the Phantom's Mid Godly works so I'll need an explanation of that. Maybe I missed it but I can't find her Regen in her profile.

I should also probably give a more concrete argument for Blades.
Since he has NPI + AZ, he should be able to freeze any incoming attacks from the Danmaku, or freeze any defensive systems she has. This is because she doesn't have res to AZ which is a complete different beast than any other freezing. Also because of his AZ zone, if Youmu's phantom gets close to him, it'll just freeze and completely shatter.

It works just like any mid godly, can regenerate from having her soul completely destroyed. Since the phantom half is spiritual in nature even if its completely obliterated it'll just regen.

Also, if we're taking optional equipment into account, Youmu would have access to a layered time-stop and power nullification via Spell Breaking drug, as well as 8 second Invincibility off of the Three Heavenly Drops spell card, all of which could allow her to land a fatal blow and likely bypass the absolute zero aura.

I'd also like to raise the argument of Youmu's concept manipulation. Once she realizes the danger of his AZ zone, Youmu could absolutely modify/gamify his aura to no longer be lethal to her, which could allow her to fight him without instantly shattering.

 

[IxaSaga2]

It works just like any mid godly, can regenerate from having her soul completely destroyed. Since the phantom half is spiritual in nature even if its completely obliterated it'll just regen.

Also, if we're taking optional equipment into account, Youmu would have access to a layered time-stop and power nullification via Spell Breaking drug, as well as 8 second Invincibility off of the Three Heavenly Drops spell card, all of which could allow her to land a fatal blow and likely bypass the absolute zero aura.

I'd also like to raise the argument of Youmu's concept manipulation. Once she realizes the danger of his AZ zone, Youmu could absolutely modify/gamify his aura to no longer be lethal to her, which could allow her to fight him without instantly shattering.

I was moreso talking about the time of the regen. If she can regen before incap then Blades has no win con which means this is a stomp.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Oh right, optional equipment here are restricted here

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

As for Youmu case, i already asked @Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara to come here since Fuji is the one who said that Youmu case is similar with Sumireko

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

But i'll try my best
So based on what Fuji said, yeah Youmu phantom can regenerate from soul destruction but how about physical destruction? If it's the same as Sumireko then Youmu can't regenerate completely from physical destruction
Which mean she can received a lethal wound and incap

It's moreso due of her half-human half-phantom that can be confusing

 

[Kirbonic_Pikmin]

But i'll try my best
So based on what Fuji said, yeah Youmu phantom can regenerate from soul destruction but how about physical destruction? If it's the same as Sumireko then Youmu can't regenerate completely from physical destruction
Which mean she can received a lethal wound and incap

It's moreso due of her half-human half-phantom that can be confusing

Youmu's phantom is a spiritual entity, though. Physical means of attack don't matter to it.

Youmu herself though is definitely able to be killed by physical destruction, but her phantom isn't.

I was moreso talking about the time of the regen. If she can regen before incap then Blades has no win con which means this is a stomp.

I'm pretty sure the mid-godly is near instantly.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

I'm pretty sure the mid-godly is near instantly.

Then it’s a stomp?

 

[Kirbonic_Pikmin]

Then it’s a stomp?

I wanna wait for @Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara to weigh in first

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

But i'll try my best
So based on what Fuji said, yeah Youmu phantom can regenerate from soul destruction but how about physical destruction? If it's the same as Sumireko then Youmu can't regenerate completely from physical destruction
Which mean she can received a lethal wound and incap

It's moreso due of her half-human half-phantom that can be confusing

Youmu's phantom half can recover near instantly (spirit regen is like 2 seconds at most if you're going from 0 spirit to "full"), but Youmu's human half is still very vulnerable. Idk how situations like this are treated in VS matches, so I'll leave that up to the experts as to whether or not Youmu's physical body dying would be a loss.

As for Youmu case, i already asked @Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara to come here since Fuji is the one who said that Youmu case is similar with Sumireko

Correct. Spirit Manipulation is more or less the same across the board. There are very few exceptions to how the ability is used, and virtually no differences in what the ability can do across all users. It's a verse power for a reason.

Anyways, I don't think Youmu can do much against attack reflection/power null against her projectiles, as well as elemental intangibility. She can't get close because of AZ, making her melee wincons with possession/BFR relatively useless, and she can't get close enough for her passives to take effect either I'd imagine. However, her magic circle/time slow makes it unlikely for Blades to hit her at a range as well, so this is really a war of attrition to see if Blades can spam power null/attack reflection enough to either reliably hit Youmu or get within range for the AZ to take effect, or if Youmu can brute force her way through Blades' defensive abilities with overwhelming danmaku, or BFR his soul with infinite range sword slashes.

It's a tough choice, honestly, but the way I see it, Youmu having at least 2 instantly regenerating phantoms by her side to soak hits, own attack reflection, power modification (which she MIGHT use if she catches on to Blades' AZ early enough), time hax, perception hax, and vibration manipulation to push back Blades if she really needs to would mean she'll slightly more reliably land the one hit she needs to snowball into a victory.

TL;DR: Youmu takes this very, VERY high diff.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

I vote for youmu based on fujiwara’s reasoning

 

[Kirbonic_Pikmin]

Youmu's phantom half can recover near instantly (spirit regen is like 2 seconds at most if you're going from 0 spirit to "full"), but Youmu's human half is still very vulnerable. Idk how situations like this are treated in VS matches, so I'll leave that up to the experts as to whether or not Youmu's physical body dying would be a loss.


Correct. Spirit Manipulation is more or less the same across the board. There are very few exceptions to how the ability is used, and virtually no differences in what the ability can do across all users. It's a verse power for a reason.

Anyways, I don't think Youmu can do much against attack reflection/power null against her projectiles, as well as elemental intangibility. She can't get close because of AZ, making her melee wincons with possession/BFR relatively useless, and she can't get close enough for her passives to take effect either I'd imagine. However, her magic circle/time slow makes it unlikely for Blades to hit her at a range as well, so this is really a war of attrition to see if Blades can spam power null/attack reflection enough to either reliably hit Youmu or get within range for the AZ to take effect, or if Youmu can brute force her way through Blades' defensive abilities with overwhelming danmaku, or BFR his soul with infinite range sword slashes.

It's a tough choice, honestly, but the way I see it, Youmu having at least 2 instantly regenerating phantoms by her side to soak hits, own attack reflection, power modification (which she MIGHT use if she catches on to Blades' AZ early enough), time hax, perception hax, and vibration manipulation to push back Blades if she really needs to would mean she'll slightly more reliably land the one hit she needs to snowball into a victory.

TL;DR: Youmu takes this very, VERY high diff.

This fight actually goes hard as hell I might have to note this down for someday

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

This fight actually goes hard as hell I might have to note this down for someday

It might make a great death battle tbh

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

Damn

Now I actually want this lol

vergil who?

 

[Shiroiyo]

I will bring something more in Youmu's favor, phantoms in Touhou can affect people's minds/emotions, this hax is not instantaneous but if the battle really goes on, it's one more advantage for Youmu.

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

i thought i mentioned that :v

I'll play devil's advocate here and say I don't recall any specific range being given for phantom passives; What's the range of Blades' passive AZ?

 

[Kirbonic_Pikmin]

Damn

Now I actually want this lol

vergil who?

Might be worth pushing honestly, I'll need to see if there's much in terms of connections though. While Vergil v Youmu will always have a special place in my heart because the animation potential is insane this one is also damn cool, I've wanted a KR vs Touhou MU for a while now.

Might be another fight worth making a blog on someday.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

i thought i mentioned that :v

I'll play devil's advocate here and say I don't recall any specific range being given for phantom passives; What's the range of Blades' passive AZ?

Based on his range, kilometers

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Might be worth pushing honestly, I'll need to see if there's much in terms of connections though. While Vergil v Youmu will always have a special place in my heart because the animation potential is insane this one is also damn cool, I've wanted a KR vs Touhou MU for a while now.

Might be another fight worth making a blog on someday.

Trust me, when Cap. America vs Ichigo being made in the future in the one of the DB season, it will opening a Can of Del Monte Greatness by introducing the Kamen Rider Verse on DB
And literally made the Kamen Rider Verse more feared

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

Based on his range, kilometers

oh then why the **** is this even a debate

Youmu just dies instantly, I was working off the assumption that the aura was tens to a few hundred meters. can we still pretend his aura has that range because tbh that was a way more enjoyable debate

 

[Kirbonic_Pikmin]

oh then why the **** is this even a debate

Youmu just dies instantly, I was working off the assumption that the aura was tens to a few hundred meters. can we still pretend his aura has that range because tbh that was a way more enjoyable debate

Why did the debate start with her 10m away when his death aura works in kilometers

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

oh then why the **** is this even a debate

Youmu just dies instantly, I was working off the assumption that the aura was tens to a few hundred meters. can we still pretend his aura has that range because tbh that was a way more enjoyable debate

I might be incorrect tbh lel, so i'll let Ixa answer this

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Oh actually, i know why you guys said "why is this a debate then"
It seems that you guys mistaking Blades AZ as passive, while in truth no it is not, even the AZ battlefield need to be activated first

The thing is he love to spam it, so even without the battlefield, Blades can make many of AZ obstacles and projectiles

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

Oh actually, i know why you guys said "why is this a debate then"
It seems that you guys mistaking Blades AZ as passive, while in truth no it is not, even the AZ battlefield need to be activated first

The thing is he love to spam it, so even without the battlefield, Blades can make many of AZ obstacles and projectiles

Oh, then it's a one stroke duel, where Youmu has to use her instant win moves before he uses his.

sooooo incon ig

 

[Kirbonic_Pikmin]

Oh, then it's a one stroke duel, where Youmu has to use her instant win moves before he uses his.

sooooo incon ig

Well I mean. Youmu basically always starts with danmaku. Would Blades start with AZ to freeze said danmaku? If so that'd likely give away his primary strategy and give Youmu a bigger chance to get off her instant win before he gets his

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Isn't Youmu always combined her danmaku with the melee attacks? That could give her something
And for instance, i want to know how skillful Youmu is as Blades/Rintarou skill in general are f***ing busted, as the man can fought equally against someone that can skip time, have a countless timeline precog, and some of the mons with at least thousand of years experience

I believe Youmu (and Touhou) skill in general are pretty busted as well but i want to make sure

 

[Kirbonic_Pikmin]

Isn't Youmu always combined her danmaku with the melee attacks? That could give her something
And for instance, i want to know how skillful Youmu is as Blades/Rintarou skill in general are f***ing busted, as the man can fought equally against someone that can skip time, have a countless timeline precog, and some of the mons with at least thousand of years experience

I believe Youmu (and Touhou) skill in general are pretty busted as well but i want to make sure

Youmu is able to use danmaku independently of sword slashes, that's not a problem. She just uses a lot of sword slashes to create danmaku patterns.

How long Youmu's been alive isn't quite deteriminable. We know she was trained by a master who was likely hundreds of years old, and she regularly fights against characters with insane abilities (Sakuya Izayoi's time powers are much more impressive than just skipping time, and characters like Reimu who passively manipulates fate & probability in her favor).

I could potentially see an argument for Blade being more skilled if he can overcome people with insane precog & defeat others with thousands of years of experience with the blade, though Youmu wouldn't be too far behind, and would have methods of evening the playing field with her time-slowing, range, and the fact she can turn the fight into a 2v1 which, would be difficult even for someone incredibly skilled.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Okay as i expected, they are pretty much equal in skills department then
So Youmu instant win button is her soul hax, right? How's that work again?

 

[Kirbonic_Pikmin]

Okay as i expected, they are pretty much equal in skills department then
So Youmu instant win button is her soul hax, right? How's that work again?

Basically on any attack Youmu lands (danmaku, physical, sword strike), the opponent's spirit is reduced and then absorbed by Youmu. Spirit includes things like the soul, and can affect mental & emotional states, stamina, and would eventually crush his guard and nullify his powers. Meaning on every hit Youmu lands, she's draining his soul and absorbing it, restoring her own spirit as well.

This basically makes a snowball effect of once Youmu gets in her first solid hit, Blade will be performing worse and worse due to stamina reduction, his soul being damaged, and his mental and emotional state being damaged, until eventually his soul his completely oblitherated. Since he can't regen from soul destruction like Touhou characters... that'd be his end.

Youmu's sword also has its own notable soulhaxx in that she can slash spirits and send them to Nirvanha, meaning if she gets a good slash on Blade she could either destroy his soul outright or just BFR it to Nirvahna.