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Kai (Ninjago) vs Uzi Doorman (Murder Drones) [8-2-1] (GRACE)

Resistance negation IS about negating her resistance to the Flames she can actually resists....
Uzi has both FIRE RESISTANCE and HEAT RESISTANCE, it's not the same thing.
Upscales from that feat as well as him being able to create volcanic explosions throught his powers, so 1000ºC+
Uzi heat resistance is above 3000ºF (1648ºC) because she can enter in the atmosphere without being hurt at all so her heat resistance is still higher.
 
His heat manip is connected to his Fire Manip as well
As I said, Fire is not the same as Heat despite one generating the other, Uzi won't resist the flames per se, but as I said, it doesnt means that the flames will burn her, it will be just like what happened in the show, she will be in fire and it will be a simple nothing burguer because her heat resistance is higher
 
Uzi has both FIRE RESISTANCE and HEAT RESISTANCE, it's not the same thing.
Kai negates it, her resistance, no matter how high or layer she has, is IRRELEVANT
Uzi heat resistance is above 3000ºF (1648ºC) because she can enter in the atmosphere without being hurt at all so her heat resistance is still higher.
Kai's powers are capable of create a forcefield with a potency high enough to resist the Astmosphere, that won't matter
 
As I said, Fire is not the same as Heat despite one generating the other, Uzi won't resist the flames per se, but as I said, it doesnt means that the flames will burn her, it will be just like what happened in the show, she will be in fire and it will be a simple nothing burguer because her heat resistance is higher
What's so hard in understand Kai's Elemental Power has heat manipulation?
 
Kai negates it,
he negates the fire resistance, not the heat one, and as you said, he negs ppl who resist 1000ºC, Uzi heat resistance is hundreds degrees higher
Kai's powers are capable of create a forcefield with a potency high enough to resist the Astmosphere, that won't matter
what does this has to do with what I said? His forcefield can resist the atmosphere, sure, but i'm not sure of how is this envolved with what I mentioned, I showed Uzi's heat resistance, which is above 1600ºC.
 
The example of that thread was Soul Manipulation, not something physical like heat and fire,
U completly missed the point

Layers just mean the hax or resistances in question have higher potency, allow them them to hax someone with lower resistance potency or resist hax of lower potency, however resistance negation mean you nullifies/bypass resistance altogether, make resistance itself useless, thus if you have no resistance against resistance negation then you get haxed no matter what, layers are meaningless
it's a NLF to say that you can neg a heat resistance hundreds degrees above your Resistance Negation feats
Its NLF to assume u can wisthand Resistance Negation without resistance to the latter. This is like saying Dura Neg that killed a 9-A guy only works on a 9-A guy, but won't work against a 5-A character
 
Its NLF to assume u can wisthand Resistance Negation without resistance to the latter.
Not really, if your heat resistance negation is about burning someone who can resist 1000ºC heat then it means nothing to someone who can resist over 1600ºC
 
Not really, if your heat resistance negation is about burning someone who can resist 1000ºC heat then it means nothing to someone who can resist over 1600ºC
No, that's not how that works. Even if Uzi had 8 layers of resistances, it would get bypassed no matter what. Also, as Lloydblitzed said, Kai's Heat is comparable to the Atmosphere's
She needs to charge, Kai flames her before she manages to shoot that
Speaking of which, it should be useless since Kai can stop spatial manip rifts

 
Who said she need to charge?

Also, as Lloydblitzed said, Kai's Heat is comparable to the Atmosphere's
When it was shown that Kai's heat is comparable to the atmosphere? It was only shown that he can create a shield to protect himself, no?
Speaking of which, it should be useless since Kai can stop spatial manip rifts
The Absolute Solver isn't a spatial rift per se, and as I showed, the High 4-C strength is from the black holes alone, because the same characters can destroy these black holes easily with the power of the Solver.
 
Kai is far more skilled than Uzi, what even stops from snaping her neck via higher LS? And she's shown to use forcefields against projectiles only, Kai can still physically one shot her
Durability: Large Planet level physically
 
what even stops from snaping her neck via higher LS
The Absolute Solver's regeneration, and even if her body is destroyed her core is still alive and she can use the Absolute Solver abilities with it so it doesnt even matter if her head is destroyed or whatever, Nori is able to fight her core alone, just like all drones infected with the solver
And she's shown to use forcefields against projectiles only, Kai can still physically one shot her
The Solver's Shields are like a barrier protecting the user
Bc that's what's consistanly shown?
It isn't though?
He would've gotten burned if his Heat potency was uncapable of taking the force
No? This just means that his shields protects him from these heats
 
And even if Uzi is killed this just means that the Absolute Solver will fully control her, and the next thing that it will do is destroy the planet
 
The Absolute Solver's regeneration, and even if her body is destroyed her core is still alive and she can use the Absolute Solver abilities with it so it doesnt even matter if her head is destroyed or whatever,
She only has mid regen, that won't help tbh
Nori is able to fight her core alone, just like all drones infected with the solver
Proceeds to burn the core
That kinda support's Lloyd's point
 
It is, shown here and here and here
One of the videos shows Uzi just snapping and the effects happening while the others are almost instantly, i thought that when you mentioned charging you were talking about it taking a lot of time like a kamehameha or whatever, that's not the case
Fair, but this doesnt really seems impossible to dodge, Uzi can keep a distance and use the Solver, I mean, even at the start of the fight she can just use the Solver to do what Doll does so I don't really see the point, although I can see Kai's wincons, but for me it just seems that Uzi wins overall
 
One of the videos shows Uzi just snapping and the effects happening while the others are almost instantly, i thought that when you mentioned charging you were talking about it taking a lot of time like a kamehameha or whatever, that's not the case
No, I just meant that Kai can attack slightly faster
Fair, but this doesnt really seems impossible to dodge, Uzi can keep a distance and use the Solver, I mean, even at the start of the fight she can just use the Solver to do what Doll does so I don't really see the point, although I can see Kai's wincons,
Kai is capable of attacking with long ranges while running foward, and mid air too in case Uzi somehow makes him fly up
but for me it just seems that Uzi wins overall
counted
 
Voting Uzi. Her Instinctive Action and teleportation allows her to avoid Kai's attacks. Even if Kai hits Uzi with fire attacks. Immortality and regeneration would allow her to survive. She could prevent kai from moving with gravity manipulation and can use explosion manipulation to blow up Kai. Overall. Uzi has a good chance of winning.
 
Voting Uzi.
Counted
Her Instinctive Action and teleportation allows her to avoid Kai's attacks.
Teleportation is like super OOC for her
Even if Kai hits Uzi with fire attacks. Immortality and regeneration would allow her to survive.
Uzi can't regen from getting blazed to ashes
She could prevent kai from moving with gravity manipulation
Won't work cuz Kai has higher LS + can just fly, and Kai can use Fire just fine in places absent of gravity such as space
and can use explosion manipulation to blow up Kai. Overall. Uzi has a good chance of winning.
Kai can pull off explosions too (and she doesn't really use that, she mains her black hole hax)
 
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Kai has 4-C AP, Uzi has 5-A dura
Her forcefields are rated as High 4-C in Durability, those can tank Kai's attacks. Additionally, AS has a degree of instinctive action so it might put up barriers when Uzi is threatened.

Not sure of any way Uzi could damage Kai tho since this is Base Uzi (Unless the fight causes her AS to activate like how it did in episode 3)

If we do assume she can use all of it's abilities, then dura neg and NULL should do the trick if she lands them.
 
Not sure of any way Uzi could damage Kai tho since this is Base Uzi (Unless the fight causes her AS to activate like how it did in episode 3)

If we do assume she can use all of it's abilities, then dura neg and NULL should do the trick if she lands them.
Base Uzi was able to use the Solver's powers during Cabin Fever before becoming a solver's puppet, also, her Base Key is weird, her base key shows some abilities and resistances that Uzi got during Episode 8 so what exactly is base uzi?
 
I thought it was Uzi from episodes 1 to 3 (Minus the ending part) since it includes the Railgun, but apparently it isn't?

That's a bit weird.
It seems that Base Uzi is just Uzi without being controlled by the Solver like what happened in Cabin Fever and Mass Destruction, i guess lol
 
Her forcefields are rated as High 4-C in Durability, those can tank Kai's attacks. Additionally, AS has a degree of instinctive action so it might put up barriers when Uzi is threatened.
Problem is that she won't be able to take physical damage (pretty sure she doesn't use Forcefields when attacking someone)
Not sure of any way Uzi could damage Kai tho since this is Base Uzi (Unless the fight causes her AS to activate like how it did in episode 3)
Huh...Black Hole attacks?
If we do assume she can use all of it's abilities, then dura neg and NULL should do the trick if she lands them.
Only in character stuff as per what SBA cites
 
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