Judgment on Elm Street

[Memecarriage]

Freddy just manipulates his universe, it's not really mind manipulation. It's often portrayed as separate from the normal character as well, with the exception of the damage they take, but that in itself is a grain of salt thing due to being supernatural in nature.
Freddy is the kind of person who toys with his enemies, that is why he didn't stomp Jason and ground him into beef, he literally could have dropped him from many kilometers like in any other movie. He also literally played pinball with him when they weren't in a physical fight.

I agree with your other points, powers and abilities of a character still work within the dream world, for instance, Alice actually retained her Dream abilities, eg. Absorbing Dream powers and skills, this is even proven when Freddy literally uses it to his advantage. And Freddy couldn't fight someone possibly a thousand times stronger, and who almost all of his powers wouldn't work against. Not sure about the Penance Stare, i don't know how exactly it works.

@Arrogant Smuck

Nah, i didn't find it mean.

Again, Freddy only toys with his enemies when he thinks he has the upper hand. In NMOES 3, Freddy wastes no time toying with Nancy, Freddy's enemy. He just lures her into a trap and stabs her in the chest. You can argue that Freddy appearing as Nancy's father is "toying with her", but that's more-so just Freddy trying to get close to her to ambush and kill her.

Yeah, there is no possible way Freddy is going to be able to kill Ghost Rider. For a start, how would he get his hands on holy weapons, something that harms Freddy as well? The way I see Freddy winning is him BFRing GR into the Dream Core and ditching him there/monitoring him for a week.

 

[ByAsura]

I know, i wasn't saying he was not toying with weaker opponents, i was just saying that he could have stomped Jason and didn't. In this context, i was sort of saying the opposite.

Alright. Ok.

 

[Memecarriage]

New Nightmare is a different continuity where Freddy is an evil entity who took on incarnations of evil in literature. Not trying to contradict you, just adding more context.
But i'm pretty sure that Penance Stare weakness has been contradicted on multiple occasions

Yeah, but in a scene where it's describing what the Entity is, Wes Craven states that the Entity considers Freddy an evil enough creation to take it's form to kill innocence.

 

[ByAsura]

Again, wasn't contradicting you, just adding more context.

 

[Memecarriage]

I know, I was just clarifying that I was aware that Entity Freddy and Film Freddy are different.

 

[ByAsura]

Ok.

 

[Promestein]

Penance Stare doesn't give a shit about whether or not the person it's being used on cares about their crimes, there's a whole reddit thread about it with multiple examples of it working on people who are even completely incapable of feeling guilt

 

[Memecarriage]

So why the random exception for there and for Punisher?

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

So why the random exception for there and for Punisher?

Da plotz called

 

[SpidermanWins]

Ghost Rider penance stares him to death. As soon as they make eye contact, it's over.