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This seems like its just gonna go in circles for a bit.
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When we had previously accepted time stop damage this calc was used. And the calcer used Star Platinum's MFTL speed to get a number for how many punches it could pull of within a single second. The amount shown was 68 billion.BerialEdge said:Mind if I ask where the 68 billion punches a second number comes from?
D180 said:Is there any official source backing the statement that Star Platinum can punch over 1000 times in one second? I know plenty of sites have stated this but I have yet to find an actual source from Araki that supports this. The only thing Araki has stated is that SP is FTL. That's it, nothing about the number of punches it can dish out.
Off topic, but yes. I mean if we are going to have a one sided fight, what's the point in starting this thread? We could have skipped this and went straight to the victories. Anyway, have we looked at battle experience and their intellegence yet? I doubt Jotaro would just take a hit from Kenshiro for no reason. Given his fights from a range of 'bizarre characters, I would say he would use his speed to avoid Kenshiro and try to find a way to beat him, the same way as most of his fights from the series.BerialEdge said:So this fight has turned into the battle of the guy with the obviously better feats vs assumptions, benefit of doubt, and questionable calcs guy. Fun stuff.
That's provided Jotaro can kill him before Kenshiro gets serious and uses his Ki attacks or Musou Tensei.Sir Ovens said:Off topic, but yes. I mean if we are going to have a one sided fight, what's the point in starting this thread? We could have skipped this and went straight to the victories. Anyway, have we looked at battle experience and their intellegence yet? I doubt Jotaro would just take a hit from Kenshiro for no reason. Given his fights from a range of 'bizarre characters, I would say he would use his speed to avoid Kenshiro and try to find a way to beat him, the same way as most of his fights from the series.BerialEdge said:So this fight has turned into the battle of the guy with the obviously better feats vs assumptions, benefit of doubt, and questionable calcs guy. Fun stuff.
D180 said:I'm sorry but I'm not buying billions of punches in seconds from you for obvious reasons.
Neither do I, but I believe if we do the math, MFTL punches in stopped time would still be in around the millions mark.D180 said:I'm sorry but I'm not buying billions of punches in seconds from you for obvious reasons.
Star Platinum can definately blitz Kenshiro until he is red mist. Outside and inside of time stop.Sir Ovens said:Well now I'm leaning more towards inconclusive. As with Seiya vs HAD, one has the potential to kill the other, but the other is much too fast for him to touch.
Jotaro was nearly killed after being knocked by a truck and a random fan blade. His stand may be FTL but he certainly isn't. He may be able to perceive FTL speeds with SP but his body certainly can't keep up. There is nothing SP can do when Kenshiro uses his Ki barriers or Musou Tensei.Derpurple said:There is still the matter of fact that Jotaro has FTL reactions and his Stand is still MFTL+, Kenshiro can't hit him regardless of Ki attacks or Musou Tensei. It doesn't matter if you don't believe in billions of punches in a second, the matter of fact is that Jotaro is leagues faster than what Kenshiro can react to or handle.
BerialEdge said:@Austrian Man
Just saying it doesn't make it true. Lol.
I'm not downplaying him. The feats speak for themselves.ImagoDesattrolante said:Also Jotaro is blatantly FTL by himself, I have no idea why you're downplaying him like that
The calcs and high balls I have seen on this thread is weirder than what I have seen in the entire series.ImagoDesattrolante said:You're acting as if it isn't fictional in a universe where very weird things exist.
Only you and the other guy think those calcs are weird, everyone else inc NF is fine with them it even got put on the OBD energy comprehensive scale. Let's talk about the actual fight now.D180 said:The calcs and high balls I have seen on this thread is weirder than what I have seen in the entire series.ImagoDesattrolante said:You're acting as if it isn't fictional in a universe where very weird things exist.
Again, mftl movement means SP can punch at mftl speeds. They happen to be billions of times a second.Malcolm Neill said:As a JoJo Fan,,no. At best there's no way SP could punch billions of times a second
The punching strength is one thing (its iffy but I'll take it) but punching billions of times per second is another altogether.Austrian-Man-Meat said:Only you and the other guy think those calcs are weird, everyone else inc NF is fine with them it even got put on the OBD energy comprehensive scale. Let's talk about the actual fight now.D180 said:The calcs and high balls I have seen on this thread is weirder than what I have seen in the entire series.ImagoDesattrolante said:You're acting as if it isn't fictional in a universe where very weird things exist.
Usain Bolt can run 1.243 m/s but that does not mean he can punch 1242 times per second. The logic isn't right at all.Austrian-Man-Meat said:Again, mftl movement means SP can punch at mftl speeds. They happen to be billions of times a second.Malcolm Neill said:As a JoJo Fan,,no. At best there's no way SP could punch billions of times a second