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Jotaro Downgrade
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>"Blitzed Killer Queen even when Jotaro was on the brink of death" We also never saw him using time stop when Kira implied he was using that, making the feat doubtful. Also KQ is weaker than SP.
Uh yeah so what? Ignoring the fact he didnt use time stop in that scene and is very explicitly pummeling the ever long shit out of Kira to the point he cant react, still a supporting feat. And no time stop wasnt used, we see all of that happen in real time.
>"Specifically stated by Stone Ocean infographics to surpass the speed of light" Has nothing to do with SP being MFTL.
Yes, a supporting wog statement stating it's above light speed and as such it aint just random outliers?
>"Stated to be able to keep up with Red Hot Chili Pepper traveling at the speed of light, although this could be due to his ability to stop time" As before and worst as Josuke, who is comparable but somewhat weaker could not keep up with that.
Time stop wasnt mentioned at all, all Koichi said was RHCP is moving at lightspeed and Jotaro would be able to keep up with that with zero indication or mention of time stop at all. Assuming Koichi meant time stop is baseless conjecture not supported by anything even said r hinted at. Ignoring the fact CD actually does manage to react to RHCP moving at light speed at least twice in that segment and the main issue was Josuke not knowing where he'd pop out from. When Josuke knew, he was able to counterattack despite RHCP still moving at said speed.
What are you actually trying to argue here? Your original post lead with complaining about the ingoring of context and clarification, but not only are you doing that as well you've, so far, made claims based on things that don't even exist or are outright proven false in the very scene they happen in, multiple times. Like come one Efi, you're the last one I expect that from.
Uh yeah so what? Ignoring the fact he didnt use time stop in that scene and is very explicitly pummeling the ever long shit out of Kira to the point he cant react, still a supporting feat. And no time stop wasnt used, we see all of that happen in real time.
>"Specifically stated by Stone Ocean infographics to surpass the speed of light" Has nothing to do with SP being MFTL.
Yes, a supporting wog statement stating it's above light speed and as such it aint just random outliers?
>"Stated to be able to keep up with Red Hot Chili Pepper traveling at the speed of light, although this could be due to his ability to stop time" As before and worst as Josuke, who is comparable but somewhat weaker could not keep up with that.
Time stop wasnt mentioned at all, all Koichi said was RHCP is moving at lightspeed and Jotaro would be able to keep up with that with zero indication or mention of time stop at all. Assuming Koichi meant time stop is baseless conjecture not supported by anything even said r hinted at. Ignoring the fact CD actually does manage to react to RHCP moving at light speed at least twice in that segment and the main issue was Josuke not knowing where he'd pop out from. When Josuke knew, he was able to counterattack despite RHCP still moving at said speed.
What are you actually trying to argue here? Your original post lead with complaining about the ingoring of context and clarification, but not only are you doing that as well you've, so far, made claims based on things that don't even exist or are outright proven false in the very scene they happen in, multiple times. Like come one Efi, you're the last one I expect that from.
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I'm not going to argue that, there are things you should have acknowledged there that I consider very clear, and that certain other users may see when reading it. So, while I do recognized some mistakes I made before in this thread, I prefer to leave everything as it is and let others evaluate it like that.
This is just because I'm tired of extremely long and avoidable discussions and incomplete CRTs, especially in this verse. Sorry.
This is just because I'm tired of extremely long and avoidable discussions and incomplete CRTs, especially in this verse. Sorry.
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Yeah? Because I wasn't commenting on those, mostly because I made that post right when I woke up, only commented on a bit. But if you mean the Magician's Red/Chariot thing? It's supporting evidence to his strength. He overpowered two high end Stands, one of which can fight the latter and managed to beat him and the latter being able to inflict deep wounds onto Dio as well and ragdoll characters like Ice quite handily. Yes SP is stronger than them, but the fact he's stronger than them is worth mentioning.
Avoidable? I don't think I've said anything that isn't in direct response to what you brought up. Ignoring other threads which aren't relevant, nothing that I said is off topic to what you said.
Although I assume you still want the Part 6 key, ok I guess but Part 6 Jotaro is kinda vague as all hell, all we know is he's stronger than Stone Free and could hypothetically kill Pucci if he got ahold of him. Which would just make his tier
At least [Whatever Stone Free and Pucci's durability is].
Avoidable? I don't think I've said anything that isn't in direct response to what you brought up. Ignoring other threads which aren't relevant, nothing that I said is off topic to what you said.
Although I assume you still want the Part 6 key, ok I guess but Part 6 Jotaro is kinda vague as all hell, all we know is he's stronger than Stone Free and could hypothetically kill Pucci if he got ahold of him. Which would just make his tier
At least [Whatever Stone Free and Pucci's durability is].
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