John Homie throwing hands with an oversized Alien (Varkolyn vs Homelander) (1-0-0)

[Jerry59]

-Varkolyn’s first key is being used and can transform into Void Varkolyn
-Speed equalized
-20 meters apart
-SBA for the rest

The Maledict Space Invader: @Arkansalter2,

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When will Lollang get a pfp (Incon):

 

[SJG13673]

Homelander:

• Weaker
• Less experienced
• Is only good that he can fly

Varkolyn:

• Stronger, even stronger in second form
• More experienced
• Can become invulnerable for a bit
• Can spawn clones
• Can withstand high heat
• Can make Homelander slower
• Has good AOE in second form

Damn

 

[Jerry59]

Homelander:

• Weaker
• Less experienced
• Is only good that he can fly

Varkolyn:

• Stronger, even stronger in second form
• More experienced
• Can become invulnerable for a bit
• Can spawn clones
• Can withstand high heat
• Can make Homelander slower
• Has good AOE in second form

Damn

well tbf, Varko's going to stick to his base form a lot, a form where he doesn’t have invulnerability. Also his resistance to heat is based on enduring things like fire and magma attacks, and Homie’s heat vision is quite hotter. If Homie gets lucky, he can keep his distance, spam lasers, and kill Varko before he transforms (even though it’s unlikely)
but aye Void would low diff Homie

 

[Jerry59]

Bump

 

[Jamesthetaker]

Haven't played Soul Knight for years, but isn't this a game where everyone can fire danmaku at each other and dodge them?

Pretty sure Varkolyn can just dodge Home with no diff then blast him to death in return.

 

[Jerry59]

Most danmaku that characters from Soul Knight dodge are quite slow (just quite), and while they can dodge lasers, many of those lasers are single-shot and then disappear quickly. Void Vark's laser is more similar to Homie's (albeit much larger), and you already know how difficult it is to dodge Vark's laser, so i would say he still has a chance to land hits
Additionally, he has resistance to poison (tho not sure if it counts as the same type of poison Vark uses but whatever), which allows him to tank the projectiles without getting debuffed sooo

 

[Jamesthetaker]

I think Soul Knight characters being way better at dodging alone would make it difficult for Homie to land a hit on Varkolyn. And the danmaku stuff would still overwhelm him because of the sheer number of projectiles and unusual pattern.

I have a question: is dark damage the same as poison, or are they separate?

 

[Jerry59]

I have a question: is dark damage the same as poison, or are they separate?

They are separate, dark damage is an effect that can stack and cause the damage to "explode" or smth

 

[Jamesthetaker]

They are separate, dark damage is an effect that can stack and cause the damage to "explode" or smth

Cool, this mean the danmaku + dark damage combo gonna **** Homie up real bad

 

[Jerry59]

Cool, this mean the danmaku + dark damage combo gonna **** Homie up real bad

I guess that means this is a stomp (hopefully it's not)

 

[Jamesthetaker]

Homie still has a chance to win using heat vision, which is stronger than Varkolyn's resistance, and if he plays smartly, he can use flight to circumvent the danmaku and score a hit on Varkolyn.

 

[Jerry59]

Homie still has a chance to win using heat vision, which is stronger than Varkolyn's resistance, and if he plays smartly, he can use flight to circumvent the danmaku and score a hit on Varkolyn.

That's nice then

Anyways Bump

 

[Just_Butchering]

Homie still has a chance to win using heat vision, which is stronger than Varkolyn's resistance, and if he plays smartly, he can use flight to circumvent the danmaku and score a hit on Varkolyn.

Already implying the wincon to him being a smart fighter shows he has no chance

 

[Jamesthetaker]

What arguing for Homie bro feel like

 

[PapiSavitar5025]

How far up does Vark scale from his initial value? Because Homelander no-sold an attack only a few dozen tons weaker with... No damage, and he's harmed characters who could harm him. So there's definitely a big scaling chain (borderline one-shot territory if you ask me) between his feat and how strong he actually is.

 

[Jerry59]

Already implying the wincon to him being a smart fighter shows he has no chance

has a really smol chance*
Already said that the SK character is not that good at dodging moving lasers so Homie's heat vision can still hit
(cannot believe I have to defend John in this match)

 

[Jerry59]

How far up does Vark scale from his initial value? Because Homelander no-sold an attack only a few dozen tons weaker with... No damage, and he's harmed characters who could harm him. So there's definitely a big scaling chain (borderline one-shot territory if you ask me) between his feat and how strong he actually is.

Vark scales or upscales from Golden Grab slamming, so he's probably a bit weaker than Homie if he has that kind of scaling I suppose. But eh if Vark transforms he will go much higher, as the characters mentioned that his dark magic radiating off him is overwhelmingly suffocating and they had to get amped just to barely win

 

[PapiSavitar5025]

Vark scales or upscales from Golden Grab slamming, so he's probably a bit weaker than Homie if he has that kind of scaling I suppose. But eh if Vark transforms he will go much higher, as the characters mentioned that his dark magic radiating off him is overwhelmingly suffocating and they had to get amped just to barely win

Here's, pretty much, the scaling chain:

Homelander >> Soldier Boy (Post-Amp) > Queen Maeve >= Soldier Boy (Pre Amp) > Chemical Plant feat

 

[Jerry59]

Here's, pretty much, the scaling chain:

Homelander >> Soldier Boy (Post-Amp) > Queen Maeve >= Soldier Boy (Pre Amp) > Chemical Plant feat

I guess that means Homie has quite a huge AP advantage then (though I wouldn't say he no-sold the explosion with uh literally no damage, he did cough up a bit of blood, but eh)

So uhm, Vark outskills in close combat + his danmaku, clones, dark damage, and slow down stuff. If needed, he can transform, summon more minions, and shoot even bigger lasers

Homelander has heat vision that can cheese Vark's heat resistance and also has greater AP

Vark would still take it i feel ?

 

[PapiSavitar5025]

I guess that means Homie has quite a huge AP advantage then (though I wouldn't say he no-sold the explosion with uh literally no damage, he did cough up a bit of blood, but eh)

(He actually doesn't cough up blood. If you zoom in, it's just brown dust particles.)

So uhm, Vark outskills in close combat + his danmaku, clones, dark damage, and slow down stuff. If needed, he can transform, summon more minions, and shoot even bigger lasers

I'm... Not all too sure about how Homie might react to danmaku, but he's pretty much immune to the attempted poison of dark damage.

But yeah, getting in close combat would be bad. Really we just have to figure if Vark could survive getting blasted.

Homelander's heat vision that can cheese Vark's heat resistance and also has greater AP

Vark would still take it i feel ?

I feel like Vark could survive short-term exposure, but he definitely shouldn't get hit too much.

Homie might just stand there and try to shrug it off, but he might just start frenzying once he actually starts taking damage.

 

[Jamesthetaker]

I'm... Not all too sure about how Homie might react to danmaku, but he's pretty much immune to the attempted poison of dark damage.

Just to be clear, the dark damage is separate from the poison, as stated above.

 

[Jerry59]

I'm... Not all too sure about how Homie might react to danmaku, but he's pretty much immune to the attempted poison of dark damage.

James already said this but aye, dark damage is separate from poison. It stacks the damage from previous attacks and will damaging Homie because uhhhhh ya know, stacked damage

But yeah, getting in close combat would be bad. Really we just have to figure if Vark could survive getting blasted.

He probably can i think? Talking about their initial value, the feat that Vark scales to is 1.15x the chemical plant thing already, so he can take some punches from Homelander and not explode or smth. And if he starts to get overwhelmed, he will close the gap by transforming

 

[Jerry59]

Bump

 

[Just_Butchering]

Homelander >> Soldier Boy (Post-Amp) > Queen Maeve >= Soldier Boy (Pre Amp) > Chemical Plant feat

What amp? Soldier Boy is the same after the experiments. Also, none of those guys are relevant to the explosion feat. Homelander simply tanked that with no damage, and can fight with and defeat those that can hurt him.

 

[PapiSavitar5025]

What amp? Soldier Boy is the same after the experiments. Also, none of those guys are relevant to the explosion feat. Homelander simply tanked that with no damage, and can fight with and defeat those that can hurt him.

I swear Soldier Boy got even stronger after the Russian experiment.
And the others listed are superior to the feat being able to damage Homie, no?

 

[Just_Butchering]

I swear Soldier Boy got even stronger after the Russian experiment.

Well, before they even knew he was alive (aka experimented on) he was stated to be "nearly as strong as Homelander" and when they fought post experimentation... Yeah, he was nearly as strong but ultimately weaker.

And the others listed are superior to the feat being able to damage Homie, no?

Yeah, I misunderstood the chain.

 

[Jerry59]

Bump

 

[Jerry59]

Bump

 

[Jerry59]

Bump

 

[Narcissist12346946]

Can Homelander resist Varkolyn's stat reduction?

 

[Jerry59]

Can Homelander resist Varkolyn's stat reduction?

The stat reduction is sticking to his poison manipulation so maybe?

 

[Jerry59]

Bump

 

[Arkansalter2]

This is a pretty interesting fight but imma have to go with Varkolyn here.
Homelander may be immune to poison, but not statistics reduction. With that in play + danmaku, Varkolyn can dodge Homie's blasts and shoot at homie hella times in return, whittling his stats down in the process. In turn, Varkolyn wins this one.
Varkolyn, mid diff.

 

[Jerry59]

This is a pretty interesting fight but imma have to go with Varkolyn here.
Homelander may be immune to poison, but not statistics reduction. With that in play + danmaku, Varkolyn can dodge Homie's blasts and shoot at homie hella times in return, whittling his stats down in the process. In turn, Varkolyn wins this one.
Varkolyn, mid diff.

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