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JJK AP Upgrade Staff

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PowerToScale said:
Strange
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PowerToScale said:
Mechamaru's feat has been updated accord TheRustyOnes comment on the appropriate way to calxulate the energy, while I think I made a good point with using the GPE end, still up to the staff:

Agree with GPE:

Agree with TheRustyOne end:
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You still have yet to put proof of subsonic walking speed to justify multiply upwards in the blog but otherwise and you still have basically all cgms disagree with the GPE end
 
Dalesean027 said:
Considering the votes here have been vehemently negative moreso if you includes things like likes which @Damage3245 has also seemingly agreed in opposition to the upgrades as well, are we good to apply the downgrades and close the thread.

There's no reason to really drag this when not a single staff memeber has agreed to the upgrades with like half a dozen CGMs chiming in as well and several mods
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I think there are sufficient disagreements to proceed now.
 
Tago238 said:
The issue with these quibbles given by JJK opponents is they’re just using pedantry to justify a kind of a ridiculous way of reading the text? They can’t deny that Yuki’s black hole is, of course, a black hole, because it’s incredibly blatant and suffices for any standards you would reasonably impose on those things. But they say it can’t be counted as a black hole in those panels because of quibbles that are clearly just artistic license? And their explanation for what is going on in those panels are absolutely nonsensical, ljke “uh she created a strong gravitational field and it drew a bunch of matter to her and the matter got super compressed and looked like that”. Something like that is obviously bad faith, nobody reads that panel and thinks that is what Gege is trying to portray.

Often, it seems, opponents will keep spamming these silly issues without even bothering to explain what is actually supposed to be being represented there. They just hope that being anally retentive about artistic representation should suffice, I want people who approach the issue this way to step back and think if they’re really going about things in an unbiased way when they do that.
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As mentioned before, Yuki is actively turning her body into a black hole, she can't be alive while simultaneously being the black hole. If she is the black hole, that means she's dead. If she's not become the black hole yet, that means she's alive. That simple.

Please provide actually useful commentary instead of just complaining about the thread not going the way you hoped, thank you.

(Atm tho the votes look super clear so this can probably be closed)
 
Dalesean027 said:
You still have yet to put proof of subsonic walking speed to justify multiply upwards in the blog but otherwise and you still have basically all cgms disagree with the GPE end
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I've just checked the its linked, in the calc, before the walking speed
CloverDragon03 said:
As mentioned before, Yuki is actively turning her body into a black hole, she can't be alive while simultaneously being the black hole. If she is the black hole, that means she's dead. If she's not become the black hole yet, that means she's alive. That simple.

Please provide actually useful commentary instead of just complaining about the thread not going the way you hoped, thank you.

(Atm tho the votes look super clear so this can probably be closed)
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It’s a yes and no. While Yuki does turn her body into a black hole, it’s not her entire body all at once, which is why the rest of her upper body is still there when the black hole starts forming. She holds it back through will and cursed energy after it starts consuming her.

Also there is still stuffy that hasn't been properly discussed, or finished
 
Dalesean027 said:
That
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Aight so
Their justifications are the same except Ryu, just change their tiers and statistics values and that's it?
Dalesean027 said:
and the removal of the Class M from the hands and Sukuna calc
Thread 'Maki Zenin and Sukuna Downgrade' https://vsbattles.com/threads/maki-zenin-and-sukuna-downgrade.180650/
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I won't touch this for now till I see a valid switch for the value,
 
KingTempest said:
To be so blunt and honest... do yall wanna just make a thread about the new calcs first beforehand?

So that we (I) don't have to change a bunch of ratings just for them to be changed after?
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Absolutely, many calcs have been accepted.
Forgot the link to the sandbox containing all the calcs tho.

Along with, Unf the nerf to Gojo/Sukuna/Mahoraga

Edit: If someone could link the page with all the calculations. That would be fantastic
 
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