Jiren full power / MUI Goku additional justification

[Golden_Void]

The Universe 6 Kaioshin stated that the force of Jiren's ki would crush them when he powered up against final UIO Goku. He could just be talking to the immediate U6 members, and U12's haikaishin is present in the shot. Either way, Belmod responds to him with, "Who cares? It doesn't matter so long as we win!"

Belmod is basically admitting he would be reiatsu crushed and would be fine with it as long as Universe 6 ultimately wins.

Jiren took all this ki and compressed it into what would be a final attack, but MUI Goku tossed it like literal garbage.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Seems... Legit, but I recall there being some rage about the idea of Ki Crushing.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Kewl. Agree.

 

[Quantu]

Didn't Jiren also have some passive barrier that people unworthy of facing him can't bypass? I remember it also blocked EP109 Base Goku's Kamehameha. That should be noted in his power/abilities or durability section

 

[Golden_Void]

Seems... Legit, but I recall there being some rage about the idea of Ki Crushing.

I've never heard of the issue. Jiren was doing it even when he was suppressed though, and his ki had people in the stands bracing themselves.

Didn't Jiren also have some passive barrier that people unworthy of facing him can't bypass? I remember it also blocked EP109 Base Goku's Kamehameha. That should be noted in his power/abilities or durability section

A ki barrier that you need to be strong enough to bypass to touch his body.

 

[K_o_Karlyn]

Definitely agree

 

[Golden_Void]

Bump
(I wonder if retired staff can @ people)

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Didn't Jiren also have some passive barrier that people unworthy of facing him can't bypass? I remember it also blocked EP109 Base Goku's Kamehameha. That should be noted in his power/abilities or durability section

I agree with this addition to his abilities

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

The Universe 6 Kaioshin stated that the force of Jiren's ki would crush them when he powered up against final UIO Goku. He could just be talking to the immediate U6 members, and U12's haikaishin is present in the shot. Either way, Belmod responds to him with, "Who cares? It doesn't matter so long as we win!"

Belmod is basically admitting he would be reiatsu crushed and would be fine with it as long as Universe 6 ultimately wins.

Jiren took all this ki and compressed it into what would be a final attack, but MUI Goku tossed it like literal garbage.

I wholeheartedly agree with that lol

 

[Vizer04]

I agree

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

I agree, but let’s wait to see how this gets stretched out 7 pages.

 

[AguilaR202]

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Seems... Legit, but I recall there being some rage about the idea of Ki Crushing.

Ki /auras always applied force over objects around it and legitimately would legit kill people if they were close to it due to the sheer AP demonstration involved ie: vegeta changing the weather, piccolo destroying a city by powering up vs cell, cell himself shaking the planet, SS3 Goku shaking earth, only reason we don’t see it happening often is because some implied ki control and because characters opt to fight in empty places, this only confirms that the effects extends to people as well.

 

[Kin201]

That doesn't seem to heavily affect GoDs and the Angels. You can see Belmod and Marcarita are the only ones in U11 who don't embrace themselves against Jiren's ki, unlike other members. This guy doesn't even care as well. The statement could just be referring to weaklings who will be affected.

 

[Golden_Void]

That doesn't seem to heavily affect GoDs and the Angels. You can see Belmod and Marcarita are the only ones in U11 who don't embrace themselves against Jiren's ki, unlike other members. This guy doesn't even care as well. The statement could just be referring to weaklings who will be affected.

Why would the angels be affected? Not only does everyone know the angels are the strongest in every universe, but they don't face being erased even if their universe loses. Both Belmod and Marcarita are fully aware of Jiren's power; arguably, nobody else in the stadium has seen that much power from one person, especially a mortal.

I would argue that Belmod is showing tense body language (including the fact he's nervous sweating), but bracing or not is a weak argument, as 99% of the audience would get obliterated by Jiren, braced or not. Also, the god you're referring to, Geene, isn't animated. He has the same blank expression for the entire clip.

 

[Kin201]

Why would the angels be affected? Not only does everyone know the angels are the strongest in every universe, but they don't face being erased even if their universe loses

Well, I mentioned the GoDs along with the Angels to make a point that fighters on their level won't be affected much. But I can exclude the Angels and only mention Belmod and Ginn.

Both Belmod and Marcarita are fully aware of Jiren's power; arguably, nobody else in the stadium has seen that much power from one person, especially a mortal.

Yeah, and one of them doesn't embrace himself, unlike the other members. He isn't affected that much.

I would argue that Belmod is showing tense body language (including the fact he's nervous sweating)

I, for one, would argue that Belmod is sweating because his last warrior is fighting Goku and deciding the fate of U11. Visual-wise, he isn't bothered by Jiren's ki to the same extent as Toppo and others. And, do we even see other GoDs show similar reactions as Belmod? They were sitting very close to each other from what I know. If only Belmod shows this kind of reaction, then we can interpret this as because Jiren is fighting. Belmod isn't in the same situation as other GoDs, who don't seem to be bothered that much by Jiren's ki.

but bracing or not is a weak argument, as 99% of the audience would get obliterated by Jiren, braced or not.

I don't disagree that the "weaklings" will be supposedly "crushed" by Jiren's ki. I'm arguing GoDs and higher beings won't be affected by it.

Also, the god you're referring to, Geene, isn't animated. He has the same blank expression for the entire clip.

What do you mean by this? I don't see Geen being bothered at all by Jiren's ki in the clip you sent. Belmod is apparently the only one among the GoDs who is panicking because Jiren is fighting and if he loses, obviously, his universe will get erased.

 

[Golden_Void]

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I was going to make a lengthy response, but the kaioshin made a statement and Belmod made an indirect admission of agreement with what was said. Therefore, it is true. Jiren had Beerus sweating buckets at suppressed levels of power.

 

[Golden_Void]

Seems... Legit, but I recall there being some rage about the idea of Ki Crushing.

Can you summon your fellow greens?

 

[Elizhaa]

It seems fine with the caveat of the ki crushes being AP based, from verse equalization.

 

[Golden_Void]

It seems fine with the caveat of the ki crushes being AP based, from verse equalization.

Let me know when you can unlock the profiles.

 

[Rendynoc0unter]

Bump
(I wonder if retired staff can @ people)

Try to tag me, whether I get notifications or not.

 

[Eseseso]

I still stand by restrained Jiren being > Beerus based on Whis's statement when Jiren was pushing back the Spirit Bomb

 

[Elizhaa]

Let me know when you can unlock the profiles.

They are unlocked, @Golden_Void ; let me know when the changes are being done.

 

[Golden_Void]

They are unlocked, @Golden_Void ; let me know when the changes are being done.

They're locked again.

 

[Elizhaa]

They're locked again.

The profiles were shown as unlocked. Maybe, it was a login issue like you were not login because I have seen similar cases before.

 

[Golden_Void]

The profiles were shown as unlocked. Maybe, it was a login issue like you were not login because I have seen similar cases before.

I forgot how to log in

 

[Golden_Void]

Can someone perform the edits? I think I might need to make a new fandom account. The justification in his full power key would read:

"The force of his ki alone was going to crush all members of Universe 6 (to include Belmod), as stated by Universe 6's kaioshin. Belmod indirectly agreed with this statement by saying he did not care as long as Universe 6 won the Tournament of Power."

 

[Golden_Void]

Can someone perform the edits? I think I might need to make a new fandom account. The justification in his full power key would read:

"The force of his ki alone was going to crush all members of Universe 6 (to include Belmod), as stated by Universe 6's kaioshin. Belmod indirectly agreed with this statement by saying he did not care as long as Universe 6 won the Tournament of Power."

bump

 

[Quantu]

I edited MUI Goku and FP Jiren's justifications

 

[SwordLegendz01]

"The force of his ki alone was going to crush all members of Universe 6 (to include Belmod), as stated by Universe 6's kaioshin. Belmod indirectly agreed with this statement by saying he did not care as long as Universe 6 won the Tournament of Power."

I'm a bit confused, isn't that Universe 11?

 

[Golden_Void]

I'm a bit confused, isn't that Universe 11?

Yeah my bad I got them confused lol, that person did it properly though.

I edited MUI Goku and FP Jiren's justifications

I'm beginning to think Goku doesn't need the justification on his profile since it links to Jiren on his profile.

 

[Quantu]

I think it looks better since it builds from UI Sign Goku's justification in the same key, but I dont mind

 

[Golden_Void]

I think it looks better since it builds from UI Sign Goku's justification in the same key, but I dont mind

Perhaps reword it to suit Goku then, since its basically Jiren's exact reasoning.