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Not my point, Goku scales to a supressed Beerus, and Beerus doesnt have a 3-A key due itGoku doesn't scale to his tier because of beerus, he scales because he performed a feat,
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Not my point, Goku scales to a supressed Beerus, and Beerus doesnt have a 3-A key due itGoku doesn't scale to his tier because of beerus, he scales because he performed a feat,
Irrelevant, then they have it, but not Jiren, again, the dude is just holding back, having it in the profile is dumb, on the other hand the low 2-C's of the TOP scale to that tier because they scale to a holding back Jiren.
noGoku scales to a supressed Beerus
Yes he does
This is why Goku is universe level.Goku doesn't scale to his tier because of beerus, he scales because he performed a feat
Goku is universe level due almost destroying universe, however, 3-A goku could hurt and nullify beerus attacksThis is why Goku is universe level.
Doesnt matter, really it doesnt matter, place the characters in that key, but Jiren himself shouldnt have it, he was holding back becsuse there didnt have a strong foe during most of time in ToP, thats allI guess what you are trying to say is that to remove the holding back key from Jiren despite characters scaling to it, I understand why you want to do that, but I think that it's better to keep it because that key is very important to the scaling.
Without that key, the scaling doesn't make sense, because the characters would scale to key that doesn't exist. It should stay.Doesnt matter, really it doesnt matter, place the characters in that key, but Jiren himself shouldnt have it, he was holding back becsuse there didnt have a strong foe during most of time in ToP, thats all
No? Jiren already was rated as superior than zamasu even holding back, so, scaling the characters to a supressed jiren already give low 2-C ratings to the characters, but Jiren himself doesnt need itWithout that key, the scaling doesn't make sense, because the characters would scale to key that doesn't exist. It should stay.
Which is why that key should stay, it's not for Jiren it's for the other characters. I'll wait for more opinions first though, probably staff.Jiren already was rated as superior than zamasu even holding back, so, scaling the characters to a supressed jiren already give low 2-C ratings to the characters
It shouldnt, he is just Holding BackWhich is why that key should stay, it's not for Jiren it's for the other characters. I'll wait for more opinions first though, probably staff.
Yeah, but that kind of justification is still useful and more organized. It’No? Jiren already was rated as superior than zamasu even holding back, so, scaling the characters to a supressed jiren already give low 2-C ratings to the characters, but Jiren himself doesnt need it
Doesn’t matter, tho. There’s valid reason to keep the keyIt shouldnt, he is just Holding Back
There is not.Doesn’t matter, tho. There’s valid reason to keep the key
No, its irrelevantYeah, but that kind of justification is still useful and more organized. It’
It really is. I suggest making a substitution cause simply removing it wouldn’t work for all reasons stated above.No, its irrelevant
There really is…There is not.
Thats not a reasonIt really is. I suggest making a substitution cause simply removing it wouldn’t work for all reasons stated above.
There is not.There really is…
There is, which was clearly talked aboutThere is not.
Thats not a reason, its a failed oneThere is, which was clearly talked about
Again, make a substitution or else this thread should honestly just be closed. Wouldn’t be that good anyway unless you made a substitutionThats not a reason
…bruh. You considered it failed but your only argument against it was essentially false equivalency.Thats not a reason, its a failed one
But I didnt? You disagreeing doesnt means that I did…bruh. You considered it failed but your only argument against it was essentially false equivalency.
Shaking world of void got debunked.Transcending time (kinda), shaking the world of void, being above characters like Kefla, etc.
Yeah, suppressed jiren should be low 2-C.Transcending time is not the reason, the world of void is just a infinite structure (nah, the infinite is just a wrong translation LOL), and Kefla is just scaling to a holding back Jiren who scales above Infinite zamasu, these characters can keep their Low 2-C keys, but Jiren was just holding back, thats my point, scaling the characters to a holding back Jiren is Okay, but Jiren keeping the wrong key is not okay
Even beerus holding back should be low 2-C tho.Not my point, Goku scales to a supressed Beerus, and Beerus doesnt have a 3-A key due it
I know, but it’s still on the profilesShaking world of void got debunked.
Yeah, suppressed jiren should be low 2-C.
Even beerus holding back should be low 2-C tho.
Bro, what?But I didnt? You disagreeing doesnt means that I did