Jean grey current big reversion!!!

[Hirotoswnn1x]

Hello everyone I'm here to suggest an upgrade for base from Jean Gray level. You shouldn't be at level 5-B, her should be at a higher level than this. Let's start exploring the content right away.

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She is a hero who should be on the same level as abstract entities .

• She overcame two nightmares.Nightmare is in astral plane.It is the reason why jean grey can defeat him.
• Jean Gray was able to destroy the Celestial's energy core.She had a vision that she could destroy the Celestial, but she didn't.
• Jean grey can protect the timeline.
• She manages to drive Iceman and Bishop out of Astral plane.
• She is feared by Doctor Doom as the most powerful creature he has ever encountered.

You should get at least High1-B possibly Low1-A from Nightmare and use astral plane.

The white hot room figure in the Immortal X-Men 2023 . She was a completely white hot room.

Scan 1 , Scan 2

She should get a high 1-A via hax (white hot room) She became the home of the phoenix and harnessed the power of the white hot room.

X-men #4 (2021) , X-men #21 (2023) The head of the book where she slapped the nightmare

The original X-Men 2023 (In the purple phoenix, she destroys the universe. Which she doesn't have any phoenixes at all. So it is base power.)

Please consider this. Thank you

 

[Hirotoswnn1x]

Bump

 

[Hirotoswnn1x]

Bump

 

[Eseseso]

• She is feared by Doctor Doom as the most powerful creature he has ever encountered.

Neutral on the CRT, but just wanted to say that this was from Ultimate Marvel, so it is not only non-canon but Doom here is far below his Earth 616 self.

 

[Hirotoswnn1x]

Neutral on the CRT, but just wanted to say that this was from Ultimate Marvel, so it is not only non-canon but Doom here is far below his Earth 616 self.

I think it's just adding more features to make it look better. And what about the other features, what do you think is suitable for upgrading?

 

[Eseseso]

I think it's just adding more features to make it look better. And what about the other features, what do you think is suitable for upgrading?

Both astral plane scans, especially the one against Nightmare, seem more like really good mindhax than AP.

Also Jean, like many Marvel powerhouses, is ludicriously inconsistent.

 

[Hirotoswnn1x]

Both astral plane scans, especially the one against Nightmare, seem more like really good mindhax than AP.

Also Jean, like many Marvel powerhouses, is ludicriously inconsistent.

She really hurt Nightmare. She punched it and didn't use mindhax.

 

[Eseseso]

She really hurt Nightmare. She punched it and didn't use mindhax.

The astral plane is the plane of the mind and the unconscious, it is where all telepathic battles occur in Marvel.

 

[Hirotoswnn1x]

The astral plane is the plane of the mind and the unconscious, it is where all telepathic battles occur in Marvel.

Should it be like this on the tier page? High1-B possibly Low1-A in astral plane? Nightmare also has his own tier in astral plane

 

[Eseseso]

Should it be like this on the tier page?

In the Marvel Cosmology page, it explains why the Astral Plane is Low 1-A.

High1-B possibly Low1-A in astral plane? Nightmare also has his own tier in astral plane

I plan on adding that to Nightmare's page eventually, don't worry.

 

[Hirotoswnn1x]

E from this makes it low1-A is the outside 616 dimensionIn the Marvel Cosmology page, it explains why the Astral Plane is Low 1-A.

I plan on adding that to Nightmare's page eventually, don't worry.

From this it becomes that level, a dimension outside 616. It is a place where there are different levels of reality.

 

[Hirotoswnn1x]

In the Marvel Cosmology page, it explains why the Astral Plane is Low 1-A.

I plan on adding that to Nightmare's page eventually, don't worry.

Nightmare and Dormammu are the same level. Plus he won Eternity universal

 

[Eseseso]

From this it becomes that level, a dimension outside 616. It is a place where there are different levels of reality.

?

 

[Hirotoswnn1x]

?

Have you read it yet? It really should be low 1-A.

 

[Eseseso]

Have you read it yet? It really should be low 1-A.

The Astral Plane is Low 1-A, because it's basically stated to be the edge of Universal Eternity, who is Low 1-A.

 

[Hirotoswnn1x]

The Astral Plane is Low 1-A, because it's basically stated to be the edge of Universal Eternity, who is Low 1-A.

So she should be low 1-A in astral plane
(In Astral Plane, there are infinite dimensions.

 

[Eseseso]

So she should be low 1-A in astral plane
(In Astral Plane, there are infinite dimensions.

Her mindhax is Low 1-A in potency/range, making it a smurf hax, but not in AP.

 

[Hirotoswnn1x]

Her mindhax is Low 1-A in potency/range, making it a smurf hax, but not in AP.

She cause serious damage Nightmare, which is exactly what she did.. Plus, it is said in Doctor Strange's book that the damage that occurred spread to the Nightmare realm.
I think it is ap damage to nightmare

 

[Eseseso]

She seriously injured Nightmare, which is exactly what she did.. Plus, it is said in Doctor Strange's book that the damage that occurred spread to the Nightmare realm.
I think it is ap damage to nightmare

His realm is a realm of the mind. He is literally the mystic demon/god of nightmares.

And even if it an AP feat, it'd be a HUMUNGOUS outlier.

 

[Hirotoswnn1x]

His realm is a realm of the mind. He is literally the mystic demon/god of nightmares.

And even if it an AP feat, it'd be a HUMUNGOUS outlier.

Why do you think so? She overcame two nightmares. Her power was really enough to kill Celestial but she didn't. She had helped keep the timeline safe with her powers. Why doesn't she have that level of power?

 

[Hirotoswnn1x]

His realm is a realm of the mind. He is literally the mystic demon/god of nightmares.

And even if it an AP feat, it'd be a HUMUNGOUS outlier.

Nightmare still performs at that level? Why didn't Jean Gray, who was able to fight him, scale up? (As is the case with Thor)

 

[BunBun]

You should get at least High1-B possibly Low1-A
from Nightmare and use astral plane.

Jean Grey said that she could end Nightmare without effort, but Nightmare stated that what Jean said was just speak of breaking bounds, she couldn't do any of that Nightmare outside his Dream Dimension isn't that powerful

In Hellfire Gala (2023) Jean couldn't stop the shock wave , she was just blunting it.

 

[Hirotoswnn1x]

Jean Grey said that she could end Nightmare without effort, but Nightmare stated that what Jean said was just speak of breaking bounds, she couldn't do any of that Nightmare outside his Dream Dimension isn't that powerful.

It is clearly written that it is in astral plane

 

[Yokoahh5743]

It is clearly written that it is in astral plane

Dr.Strange stated that Jean didn't fought with Nightmare in Dream Dimension. They're fighting outside of the realm. So the meaning term of astral plane wasn't dreamscape

 

[Yokoahh5743]

• Jean grey can protect the timeline.

Isn't this from Age of Apocalypse (2005) #6?? It's not Earth-616 Jean Grey ,it's Jean Grey from Earth-295 And in that universe Jean Grey has Phoenix force, that's why she can protect the timeline

 

[Yokoahh5743]

• Jean Gray was able to destroy the Celestial's energy core.She had a vision that she could destroy the Celestial, but she didn't.

In A.X.E. Judgement day #3 it wasn't a vision , it just an illusion that Celestial created.
In A.X.E Jean Grey has no power over the Celestial, neither physical
way nor psychical way

 

[LordTracer]

Every scan in the OP needs to be sourced with the comic they came from.

 

[BunBun]

Why can't I reply to any comments?

 

[Antvasima]

@Emirp sumitpo @Firestorm808 @LephyrTheRevanchist @Qawsedf234

What do you think about this?

 

[Hirotoswnn1x]

@Emirp sumitpo @Firestorm808 @LephyrTheRevanchist @Qawsedf234

What do you think about this?

Can you tag Ultima? He is the most reliable person to investigate Marvel.

 

[Antvasima]

@Ultima_Reality

What do you think about this?

 

[Eseseso]

Can you tag Ultima? He is the most reliable person to investigate Marvel.

He's incredibly busy rn.

 

[Firestorm808]

Hello everyone I'm here to suggest an upgrade for base from Jean Gray level. You shouldn't be at level 5-B, her should be at a higher level than this. Let's start exploring the content right away.

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She is a hero who should be on the same level as abstract entities .

• She overcame two nightmares.Nightmare is in astral plane.It is the reason why jean grey can defeat him.
• Jean Gray was able to destroy the Celestial's energy core.She had a vision that she could destroy the Celestial, but she didn't.
• Jean grey can protect the timeline.
• She manages to drive Iceman and Bishop out of Astral plane.
• She is feared by Doctor Doom as the most powerful creature he has ever encountered.

You should get at least High1-B possibly Low1-A from Nightmare and use astral plane.

The white hot room figure in the Immortal X-Men 2023 . She was a completely white hot room.

Scan 1 , Scan 2

She should get a high 1-A via hax (white hot room) She became the home of the phoenix and harnessed the power of the white hot room.

Please consider this. Thank you

Can you please revise the OP to include the sources for your scans?

 

[Hirotoswnn1x]

Can you please revise the OP to include the sources for your scans?

Do you want me to put it in the book name ?

 

[Firestorm808]

Do you want me to put it in the book name ?

Yes. Comic book name, volume, and issue #.

 

[Hirotoswnn1x]

Yes. Comic book name, volume, and issue #.

X-men #4 (2021)

X-men #21 (2023)

The original X-Men (Purple Jean Gray is her basic form )

 

[Firestorm808]

X-men #4 (2021)

X-men #21 (2023)

The original X-Men (Purple Jean Gray is her basic form )

Yes, please revise the OP to label your scans with these sources. Don't forget to include the issue # for your immortal xmen scans.

 

[Antvasima]

Yes, please revise the OP to label your scans with these sources. Don't forget to include the issue # for your immortal xmen scans.

@Hirotoswnn1x