Breadbear83
He/Him- 912
- 586
based on this calc i once Made
basically, in Chapter 107 of Chainsaw Man, around the middle, this random devil hunter, Seigi Akoku, dodges an attack from Transformed Yuko (that big Devil) throwing her leg (looks like an tentacle) at him
i was told by CGM Drite77 that this feat may fall within Evading Punches, which would invalidate the Feat
but i would argue about it at some things
so from when the Feat happens, and when Yuko gets mad and blitzes all of them at once, its clear Yuko was heavily Holding Back when throwing the first hit at Seigi, if she wasn´t then Seigi would have been blitzed like he was later
so in the Feat, Seigi seems to be much faster than a HOLDING BACK Yuko, not faster than Yuko usually is
besides that, the Evading Punches section states ´´This should only be used when the character in question is greatly superior to the one who's attack he is evading and the speed of the attack is concretely stated, such as being able to surpass the speed of sound, or light, or uses a basis in the Real World such as the speed of an athlete's punch´´ look at when it says ´´or uses a basis in the real world such as the speed of an athletes punch´´
even Power and Long, 2 Fiends who as Fiend should be weaker than Devils like Yuko (and because the Chainsaw Man verse Page has Power smashing the sea cucumber Devil and Long Blocking bullets as the lowest AP and speed Feat of the verse that character scale to (as they are main calculations)) have Super Human Physical Characteristics in their Pages, this include speeds of 12.42 m/s or higher, with yuko being faster than Character with that in their profiles
when Yuko throws her tentacle at Seigi, you can see that the tentacle is kinda blurry because of how fast its going, for the attack to have any implication of being fast like this, it cannot be going at average human speed of 5 m/s, perhaps at lowball it could be assumed as athletic human attack (7.7 m/s) but as Yuko is already much faster than other Super Human Characters, a holding Back Yuko could still have assumed Super Human Speed in an attack
besides, even slowest Devils scale to Sub Sonic+ (Mach 0.83) from a feat of a fiend reacting and dodging a bullet, Slowest Character in Chainsaw Man are shown to be way faster than baseline Super Human Speed
basically, in Chapter 107 of Chainsaw Man, around the middle, this random devil hunter, Seigi Akoku, dodges an attack from Transformed Yuko (that big Devil) throwing her leg (looks like an tentacle) at him
i was told by CGM Drite77 that this feat may fall within Evading Punches, which would invalidate the Feat
but i would argue about it at some things
- first, analyzing the Chapter, Yuko states herself that she doesnt want to hurt innocents, this implies she holding back because she wouldnt be having killing intent on that hit, hitting at lower speeds than usual, Seigi dodges that attack and rapidly Hits Yuko
- other devil hunters comes and jumps at Yuko (the one with the crossbow and the girl with a katana, you can see it in Chapter 107)
- pages later, Yuko Gets mad, says ´´you just ganged up on me and bullied me, you´re bad guys too, aren´t you?´´ then proceeds to hit all of them with her multiple tentacles, Seigi loses his Eye, the guy with crossbow gets stabbed and dies, and the girl with Katana gets pushed behind a window
so from when the Feat happens, and when Yuko gets mad and blitzes all of them at once, its clear Yuko was heavily Holding Back when throwing the first hit at Seigi, if she wasn´t then Seigi would have been blitzed like he was later
so in the Feat, Seigi seems to be much faster than a HOLDING BACK Yuko, not faster than Yuko usually is
besides that, the Evading Punches section states ´´This should only be used when the character in question is greatly superior to the one who's attack he is evading and the speed of the attack is concretely stated, such as being able to surpass the speed of sound, or light, or uses a basis in the Real World such as the speed of an athlete's punch´´ look at when it says ´´or uses a basis in the real world such as the speed of an athletes punch´´
even Power and Long, 2 Fiends who as Fiend should be weaker than Devils like Yuko (and because the Chainsaw Man verse Page has Power smashing the sea cucumber Devil and Long Blocking bullets as the lowest AP and speed Feat of the verse that character scale to (as they are main calculations)) have Super Human Physical Characteristics in their Pages, this include speeds of 12.42 m/s or higher, with yuko being faster than Character with that in their profiles
when Yuko throws her tentacle at Seigi, you can see that the tentacle is kinda blurry because of how fast its going, for the attack to have any implication of being fast like this, it cannot be going at average human speed of 5 m/s, perhaps at lowball it could be assumed as athletic human attack (7.7 m/s) but as Yuko is already much faster than other Super Human Characters, a holding Back Yuko could still have assumed Super Human Speed in an attack
besides, even slowest Devils scale to Sub Sonic+ (Mach 0.83) from a feat of a fiend reacting and dodging a bullet, Slowest Character in Chainsaw Man are shown to be way faster than baseline Super Human Speed
