Is there any character that can beat MJ-force CAS?

[Tarang123]

Well, title is pretty clear. Get to it...any character that beats MJ-force CAS.

 

[EliminatorVenom]

Eh, I'll bite. What'd be his tier, to make things more interesting?

 

[Tarang123]

Eh, I'll bite. What'd be his tier, to make things more interesting?

Well, apparently he's the "universal truth outside the page", so...yeah...not sure if that means much, tho

 

[EliminatorVenom]

Well, apparently he's the "universal truth outside the page", so...yeah...not sure if that means much, tho

Hmmm...

Is there anything to scale him to? Even if it is just "He is far higher than X" or if it is an otherwise unreasonable scaling attempt.

 

[Tarang123]

Hmmm...

Is there anything to scale him to? Even if it is just "He is far higher than X" or if it is an otherwise unreasonable scaling attempt.

Something like how Overvoid contains all of fiction and how it contains our real world as well. CAS apparently is above all fictions due to Hypertime containing all of them cause of some statement by Grant Morrison.

Some statements of Mandrakk being called the "page" (which are out of context), and mainly due to scaling to Mandrakk

 

[EliminatorVenom]

There's three ways of interepreting those feats, and the first one which I'll discard is that the entirety of fiction, as in, everything ever created by mankind is transcended by him. That would make the question redundant.

The second one, above every form of fictional media in DC, which I think reflects things that were fiction, but due to how the cosmology works, can exist. That makes it hard - it'd take a DC specialist to say for sure what characters would fit in this description. From some nebulous memories I think there's an argument to be made for 2-A+/Low 1-C fictional characters in DC, thanks to some stuff involving the Imps and Ultimator... In any case, I'd probably bet on some Dungeons and Dragons and Warhammer 40k characters on beating him. Possibly someone like Magnus the Red, say.

And now, interpreting Mandrakk as the page, he's apparently 1-A... So... Uh...

I'm unsure how to rank 1-A beings by power. I mean, I could probably think some Lovecraft character that'd beat him, but at that point, it wouldn't be an interesting match...

 

[Tarang123]

The whole idea is that an MJ force CAS is apparently beyond the real world, so...we need all the metafiction wank we can get to beat this man

 

[Urshani]

GodGate Gilgamesh. Compku. Wankmiru

 

[EliminatorVenom]

The whole idea is that an MJ force CAS is apparently beyond the real world, so...we need all the metafiction wank we can get to beat this man

Oh, so if we accept metafiction, it gets significantly easier. Suggs characters and some Lovecraftian beings can easily do it, then.

 

[Tarang123]

Oh, so if we accept metafiction, it gets significantly easier. Suggs characters and some Lovecraftian beings can easily do it, then.

Why lovecraft?

 

[EliminatorVenom]

The entities are implied to exist in real life. In fact, Lovecraft himself, as per his mythos, descends from Yog-Sothoth, although only as a grand-grand-grand(insert many more grand's)-son of him.

 

[Tarang123]

The entities are implied to exist in real life. In fact, Lovecraft himself, as per his mythos, descends from Yog-Sothoth, although only as a grand-grand-grand(insert many more grand's)-son of him.

Yes…the power of meta