Is the Soul Always Considered a Non-Physical Entity?

[Chris_only9271]

Hi, i have some questions about the rules and conditions for claiming the ability "Non-physical Interaction" for a character

If Character A uses their power to harm a soul, but meanwhile Character B, who does not have any supernatural powers, can also touch and kick the soul, does that mean Character B has the "Non-physical Interaction" ability, or does it imply that the soul is not considered a non-physical entity?

For example, in Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, some characters like Dr. Strange, Wong, and Scarlet Witch have the ability "Non-physical Interaction" by harming the soul. However, in one scene, Christine Palmer is also able to kick a soul.

 

[Digital_Franz]

A soul should always be an abstraction, and I don't think there are any verses where a soul is physical.

To get to your question, the fact that character B can interact with the soul despite lacking supernatural powers doesn't indicate that the soul isn't an abstraction. Rather, it just shows that character B can interact with souls.

 

[Thelastmlg]

IIRC there are some verses where the soul is, somehow, physical, at least when it leaves the body, but those are very rare and just an exception, by default souls are considered incorporeal because that's the whole thing behind them, being noncorporeal essence of life

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Usually, the soul should be assumed intangible by default.

 

[Chris_only9271]

Usually, the soul should be assumed intangible by default.

As far as I know, "If a soul is proven to be physically tangible, interacting with it is not non-physocal interaction."
This must mean that there are cases where a soul is physical.
I have also heard that "punching a corporeal ghost isn't NPI."
I wonder, how can we prove that a soul is physical? Can a human character who has no supernatural powers or has never been stated to have any talent related to souls kicking a soul be considered proof in this case?

In that scene, the soul looks more like a corporeal ghost than an intangible soul.

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

For example, in Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, some characters like Dr. Strange, Wong, and Scarlet Witch have the ability "Non-physical Interaction" by harming the soul. However, in one scene, Christine Palmer is also able to kick a soul.

This seems more or less about those souls/ghosts crystallizing into physical form

I wonder, how can we prove that a soul is physical? Can a human character who has no supernatural powers or has never been stated to have any talent related to souls kicking a soul be considered proof in this case?

Cases where something with clearly no form of NPI can effect Souls, such as Souls being destroyed by being crushed under a building, as ridiculous as that sounds. Alternatively, Souls having weight can also be physical, but again, extremely unusual and exceptional cases these would be, indeed.

 

[Chris_only9271]

This seems more or less about those souls/ghosts crystallizing into physical form

In your opinion, does it make sense for those characters to have NPI by harming that kind of soul?

 

[Flashlight237]

Generally they are. There are a few exceptions. The earliest exception to the rule is Ancient Egyptian mythology. There, they believed that the body is part of the soul.

 

[Chris_only9271]

Generally they are. There are a few exceptions. The earliest exception to the rule is Ancient Egyptian mythology. There, they believed that the body is part of the soul.

Can a human character who has no supernatural powers, has never been stated to have any talent related to souls, and clearly possesses no form of NPI, kicking a soul be considered an exception?

 

[Flashlight237]

Can a human character who has no supernatural powers, has never been stated to have any talent related to souls, and clearly possesses no form of NPI, kicking a soul be considered an exception?

That can go in one of two ways...

1. Said human character would be given NPI anyway thanks to VBW logic.
2. If said soul is physical like Whitesnake's soul disks, then that would be considered an exception.

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

In your opinion, does it make sense for those characters to have NPI by harming that kind of soul?

In the cases I described, no, since NPI requires something to not be physicaI in at Ieast some sense

 

[Chris_only9271]

That can go in one of two ways...

1. Said human character would be given NPI anyway thanks to VBW logic.
2. If said soul is physical like Whitesnake's soul disks, then that would be considered an exception.

What if a soul is pressed or crushed by an object, such as a building, that clearly has no form of NPI? Could this be considered proof that the soul is physical?

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

What if a soul is pressed or crushed by an object, such as a building, that clearly has no form of NPI? Could this be considered proof that the soul is physical?

If the souI is not in some physicaI manifestation form, then yeah