Is the heart of the universe actually multiversal

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

for one thing it only affected one universe. Since thanos only absorbed and recreated only one. (plus the rest of the multiverse was unaffected by the hotu when thanos used it to absorb things)

The second is, since The Living Tribunal has his own manifestation bodies. The living tribunal that was absorbed by hotu could have been a manifestation body and not the real thing.

and third marvel the end was non-canon.

I mean i know you guys hate tom but he did say

This interpretation was validated by Marvel's executive editor Tom Brevoort, who stated that like all, "The End" series, the story was intended to have no effect whatsoever on continuity, and if it had, Death would have been made absolute again, which it was not. So the entire event may also have taken place as an "imaginary story" completely outside of Marvel's multiversal continuity.



so why is the hotu considered tier 1 on this wiki? just asking

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

We seriously need a Marvel cosmology blog tbh. The only question I can answer is the fact an universe in the context of Marvel (especially the 616 universe) isn't the typical low 2-C structure, it's more akin to a "Megaverse" where it contains an infinite amount of dimensions/realms within it (2-A) plus higher plains of existence too (low 1-C and higher).

So the HotU affecting the entire 616 universe is actually very impressive (it's partly the reason why the IG is tier 1 too).

As for the other questions/issues I dunno tbh.

 

[Cyberblader90]

The author's statement of it not being Canon is contradicted by several other pieces of info including other canonical pieces

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

The author's statement of it not being Canon is contradicted by several other pieces of info including other canonical pieces

if that's so place. it in thanos profile to explain more.

extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence

 

[Confluctor]

The heart of the multiversal is outerversal, because there is a long scaling chain and cosmology involved. In composite cosmology, he transcends the House of Ideas, or at least exists on a higher plane of that dimension/space. Which means, even if he only destroyed just a world, his tier is still pretty high into tier 1.

BEen a while since I read the comic, but I am pretty sure it was said he destroyer a lot of higher Dimensions until he reached "our world".

Also, TLT doesn't have universal m bodies, he didn't until the very recent cosmology. But even that has been retconed back to its normal. It was merely an inconsistency in ONE comics, whereas everywhere else, there is only one living tribunal and no m body.


Also, I wouldn't take Tom's words at face value, he often contradicts the canon. Take what the comic says, and the comics says it's canon.

 

[Confluctor]

We seriously need a Marvel cosmology blog tbh

That we do. Matthew did make one for its higher Dimensions and stuff, but a big one would help everyone.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

sometimes i look at reddit, sometimes i look at here, sometimes i look at other battles and i wonder who is right?

 

[Confluctor]

The comic, the canon, that is right. Reddit has its own flaws and biases, this wiki has its own, comicvine and quora has its own. Speaking of Quora, I just saw someone saying Thanos is not even universal with the HotU... So, take it as you will. Read the comic and take it as you will.

 

[Bernkastelll]

sometimes i look at reddit, sometimes i look at here, sometimes i look at other battles and i wonder who is right?

Look at the official source, if a site says something that is contradicted by the official source, then that site is wrong

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Look at the official source, if a site says something that is contradicted by the official source, then that site is wrong

no i mean debates on who wins things in general

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

but also this one

 

[Bernkastelll]

no i mean debates on who wins things in general

Def not Reddit, Quora and Facebook

 

[Confluctor]

Def not Reddit, Quora and Facebook

Best advice lol

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

no battleboard is perfect.

you can't trust anyone

 

[Confluctor]

Very true.

Except for me

 

[Bernkastelll]

no battleboard is perfect.

Indeed, but there are ones that are really really bad, far from being acceptable, more like a jungle

 

[Thelastmlg]

Reddit has no rules or organization, every feat and debate there is based on basic strict math and eyeballing, plus bias, it is not even a debate place tbh.

The rest is the rest.

 

[Bernkastelll]

Reddit has no rules or organization, every feat and debate there is based on basic strict math and eyeballing, plus bias, it is not even a debate place tbh.

Facebook, Youtube and Comicvine are not far from it lol

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Facebook, Youtube and Comicvine are not far from it lol

yeah but not even this wiki is safe.

i mean you can't trust any site. (i think it's because vs debating has no real answer because it's fictional. (as in the characters and calcing from the images do you agree?)