Invincible season 3 discussion

[Tahoy49574]

i remember hearing that mark throwing Allen to the moon yielded high results in the show

No way on that, in the comic you can outright see it's curvature

 

[Tahoy49574]

Actually, why hasn't the comic version been properly calculated yet ?

 

[Reyne]

I just realized that the Hell on Earth arc may be so Eve and the others have something to do during the Viltrumite War.

Maybe El Mmortal will get something good.

 

[Tahoy49574]

I just realized that the Hell on Earth arc may be so Eve and the others have something to do during the Viltrumite War.

Maybe El Mmortal will get something good.

Guarding the Globe is more likely the Earth subplot of Season 4

Mark's the protagonist of the Hell arc going by what Kirkman has said and Immortal retiring and Eve not superheroing are integral to the plot

 

[Electronic74947]

No way on that, in the comic you can outright see it's curvature

What about when mark jumps off the moon tho in season 3 training?

 

[MichaelCalistro]

Nolan, Thaedus and Mark Destroy Viltrum

I do apology for intruding, but what do you people think about this Solar System level calculation that I found online?

 

[Alexander]

Nolan, Thaedus and Mark Destroy Viltrum

I do apology for intruding, but what do you people think about this Solar System level calculation that I found online?

i don't know

 

[Tahoy49574]

Nolan, Thaedus and Mark Destroy Viltrum

I do apology for intruding, but what do you people think about this Solar System level calculation that I found online?

Wait a moment, the mass ejected is roughly the same as the calc we're currently using, why aren't we using it for the LS ?

Anyway, ReturnofKhadz is pretty adamant on using escape velocity as the timeframe so RIP

Tho I agree trying we shouldn't lessen the viltrumites' efforts because of the Infinity Ray since the way it functions is pretty vague, it's only other notable feat is destroying an asteroid belt through a chain rection but that was because of it's kinetic energy, not through something like "destabilizing" it and messing with it's gravity. Thaedus even thought Allen and Tech Jacket we needed but they still pulled it off barely scathed

 

[NikHelton]

Nolan, Thaedus and Mark Destroy Viltrum

I do apology for intruding, but what do you people think about this Solar System level calculation that I found online?

Considering that they relied on the planet's destabilized core and could have died on impact, this is just an outlier. I find even Low 5-B to be an overestimated result, but it is somehow logically justified.

 

[Alexander]

Considering that they relied on the planet's destabilized core and could have died on impact, this is just an outlier. I find even Low 5-B to be an overestimated result, but it is somehow logically justified.

then why does Thragg hate them more than the guy who shoot the gun?

 

[Tahoy49574]

I find even Low 5-B to be an overestimated result, but it is somehow logically justified.

There's nothing wrong with the calc and it's a fairly conservative result

 

[NikHelton]

There's nothing wrong with the calc and it's a fairly conservative result

I will voice an unpopular opinion, but the narrative stands above mathematics. The Trinity needed a number of conventions for this feat, so scaling them up to the full-fledged destruction of the planet is very strange. But I'm not going to advocate lowering the verse. I was just expressing my opinion.

 

[Tahoy49574]

I will voice an unpopular opinion, but the narrative stands above mathematics. The Trinity needed a number of conventions for this feat, so scaling them up to the full-fledged destruction of the planet is very strange. But I'm not going to advocate lowering the verse. I was just expressing my opinion.

It's not scaling them to the desctruction of the planet tho ? Just the big hole they make on their way out

 

[NikHelton]

It's not scaling them to the desctruction of the planet tho ? Just the big hole they make on their way out

It's more like "hitting a crack in the glass to break it".

 

[Tahoy49574]

It's more like "hitting a crack in the glass to break it".

The most you can take away from it is the planetary explosion, all the mass ejected into space is very much theirs

 

[ReturnofKhadz]

I do apology for intruding, but what do you people think about this Solar System level calculation that I found online?

Solar system level from a planet bust

 

[Alexander]

Solar system level from a planet bust

i mean you can also get multi city block from destroying a building...by vaporizing it completely

 

[ReturnofKhadz]

Considering that they relied on the planet's destabilized core and could have died on impact, this is just an outlier. I find even Low 5-B to be an overestimated result, but it is somehow logically justified.

Pray do tell.

 

[ReturnofKhadz]

i mean you can also get multi city block from destroying a building...by vaporizing it completely

Do I really need to explain why busting a planet isn’t gonna get anywhere near busting a main sequence star and all its planets ever?

 

[Alexander]

Do I really need to explain why busting a planet isn’t gonna get anywhere near busting a main sequence star and all its planets ever?

I say some planets in fiction are bigger or smaller than Earth, if I'm honest.
also the logic is that the planet was not instantly destroyed after the infinite ray gun shoots at the planet, if it was that easy, then why did they need the help of the three viltrumites?

 

[ReturnofKhadz]

It's more like "hitting a crack in the glass to break it".

The amount of KE calculated for them relative to the Planetary GBE (let alone the explosion of the planet, which would be several several times over GBE level since it isn’t taking like 20 mins to expand out its radius alone) is more like a scratch on a glass, rather than even a crack.

 

[ReturnofKhadz]

I say some planets in fiction are bigger or smaller than Earth, if I'm honest.
also the logic is that the planet was not instantly destroyed after the infinite ray gun shoots at the planet, if it was that easy, then why did they need the help of the three viltrumites?

Do you think that’s the case for Viltrum? Do you think that’s the justification the calc is using there? Do you think physics should be applicable at all TL quantify a feat in that case, when it is entirely contradicted?

 

[Tahoy49574]

i mean you can also get multi city block from destroying a building...by vaporizing it completely

A much better example would be how most moon busts yield Planet level results and above lol

 

[Alexander]

Do you think that’s the case for Viltrum? Do you think that’s the justification the calc is using there? Do you think physics should be applicable at all TL quantify a feat in that case, when it is entirely contradicted?

Let's see...how can it be contradicted? The weapon wasn't the one that caused most of the destruction. If it was only the weapon that did most of the damage, then why would they need the Viltrumites?also Thragg has a revenge against the viltrumites, not the guy with the gun.

 

[Alexander]

A much better example would be how most moon busts yield Planet level results and above lol

turn the moon into dust.

 

[MichaelCalistro]

Solar system level from a planet bust

The Earth from Toriko verse has a SS level GBE might I remind you, but no one complains about that it seems.

 

[ReturnofKhadz]

A much better example would be how most moon busts yield Planet level results and above lol

That can actually realistically be attained mathematically from RKE. Can’t for this. Not only is the guy not using RKE or anything for his basis, but if he did it would be extremely iffy since I’m sure you know how exponential a RKE curve is with velocity past like 99% the speed of light. A literal 0.0000000001% difference at higher decimal places can make one KE like a billion times higher than the other and those orders of magnitude differences keep increasing to a greater extent with more decimal places. Solar system level RKE from a planet bust would be somewhere past 99.99% SoL that I don’t exactly know. The tiniest incremental difference in speed would have a massive margin of error.

 

[ReturnofKhadz]

Let's see...how can it be contradicted? The weapon wasn't the one that caused most of the destruction. If it was only the weapon that did most of the damage, then why would they need the Viltrumites?also Thragg has a revenge against the viltrumites, not the guy with the gun.

For one, I think the fact that it couldn’t solo the feat is proof it actually caps below planet busting. And we know it can effortlessly gore any Viltrumite anyway. Let’s not pretend someone like Thragg, let alone Nolan/Mark/whoever, is tanking it head-on. That’s intent butchery

 

[ReturnofKhadz]

The Earth from Toriko verse has a SS level GBE might I remind you, but no one complains about that it seems.

Ibsr I do not gaf about that verse. I know next to nothing about it so don’t have any effort to dispute that.

 

[Alexander]

For one, I think the fact that it couldn’t solo the feat is proof it actually caps below planet busting. And we know it can effortlessly gore any Viltrumite anyway. Let’s not pretend someone like Thragg, let alone Nolan/Mark/whoever, is tanking it head-on. That’s intent butchery

(Kirkman says that they can blow up planets)Viltrum is just a example of three viltrumites destroying a planet, yes, the feat was not done alone, but also their power combined is not going to magically multiply to the point they can't individually scale to the energy of the big explosion they caused by themselves.

 

[Reyne]

Huh, I only now noticed that the trio flew back to the fight, preceeding the explosion. That means they had to follow the infinity ray, which came from a gun Thaedus' scientists had access to prior to this battle. I wonder if we should listen to a guy who would've been in the same room as the wielder of such a weapon, and would've had an interest in both, or to other viewers who had nothing to do with the writing process.

What does Viltrum forming a ring mean for the results? Does anyone think Occum's Razor would allow for us to believe a planet is as durable as a star?

 

[Electronic74947]

Didn't thaddeus say they COULD die on impact if the core was destabilised? Not that they would? One is more uncertain.


Also isn't the infinity ray theorised to be able to destroy stars to? How come it didn't just destroy viltrum outright?

 

[ReturnofKhadz]

(Kirkman says that they can blow up planets)Viltrum is just a example of three viltrumites destroying a planet, yes, the feat was not done alone, but also their power combined is not going to magically multiply to the point they can't individually scale to the energy of the big explosion they caused by themselves.

Funny that you posted these 2. The first scan is something I completely fabricated 3 years ago to troll a dude on discord/CV. Idk how you got your hands on it. The second one, the podcast video, is something I also found first like 2 years ago and sent to some dude on CV called SFW, who a whole ton of people took from when he made his thread. I’m sure you took it from that too, or got it from someone who took it from that. The podcast quote doesn’t really mean anything, aside from the planet blowing up after the whole process. I just think the combination of the infinity ray doing something to the core made it easier for them to just hit the core alone to blow up the rest of the planet. Like why couldn’t they just hit the surface of the planet and bounce off, instead of hitting the core specifically? There’s also this, from a skybound insiders article;
https://cdn.**********.com/attachments/1208049916962676819/1210321970101751808/IMG_5541.png?ex=67d92e6c&is=67d7dcec&hm=74ef119ecdce280ca6ff2a38fea487c5c4419c2a934c37520228ad53c6ab0d8f&
Seems like they couldn’t have exploded the planet without targetting the core specifically.

 

[Alexander]

Funny that you posted these 2. The first scan is something I completely fabricated 3 years ago to troll a dude on discord/CV. Idk how you got your hands on it. The second one, the podcast video, is something I also found first like 2 years ago and sent to some dude on CV called SFW, who a whole ton of people took from when he made his thread. I’m sure you took it from that too, or got it from someone who took it from that. The podcast quote doesn’t really mean anything, aside from the planet blowing up after the whole process. I just think the combination of the infinity ray doing something to the core made it easier for them to just hit the core alone to blow up the rest of the planet. Like why couldn’t they just hit the surface of the planet and bounce off, instead of hitting the core specifically? There’s also this, from a skybound insiders article;

man, why do you sound like you fabricated this master plan?

 

[Alexander]

well i hope the amazon series changes to "the planet is tought for the infinite ray to destroy, but with our power, we can destroy it completely, but we need to do it quick, if we don't, they could catch us"

 

[SlendVeny]

well i hope the amazon series changes to "the planet is tought for the infinite ray to destroy, but with our power, we can destroy it completely, but we need to do it quick, if we don't, they could catch us"

I hope the Amazon Series kills that bozo Space Racer and replaces him with 3 more Battle Beasts

 

[Guacamolefletcher]

I made this thread. I ****** up the title, but it's about the Immortal not scaling to Omni Man.

The Immortal is not at Omni-Man's level

Introduction I was suprised to see the inverse scaling here is almost completely wrong. Immortal completely scales to Omni Man (!?), someone who can literally decapitate him with a slash of the arm, and consistently punches through him. This is clearly inconsistent. Omni Man gets staggered by...

vsbattles.com

 

[Tahoy49574]

I made this thread. I ****** up the title, but it's about the Immortal not scaling to Omni Man.

The Immortal is not at Omni-Man's level

Introduction I was suprised to see the inverse scaling here is almost completely wrong. Immortal completely scales to Omni Man (!?), someone who can literally decapitate him with a slash of the arm, and consistently punches through him. This is clearly inconsistent. Omni Man gets staggered by...

vsbattles.com

You can change the thread's title

 

[Guacamolefletcher]

You can change the thread title ?

I thought you couldn't, and only mods could, that's my bad, I changed it ASAP

 

[Tahoy49574]

Hey someone made a Space Racer profile a couple days ago