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Invincible season 3 discussion

So a kid is still figuring out questions of morality he doesn't quite understand but feels very strongly about while also juggling all the changes of young adulthood? He sounds like a pretty normal kid up until you realize he has to be a superhero who's been in near death situations ever since he got his powers and had the people around him be actively endangered by his superhero activities. And you're perplexed why he's broken by stress and fatigue? Adults break over less.

You're defensively reading something I didn't say at all. I never said Mark was right, quite the opposite, I said that you do bad things while not quite there from stress. I was only answering the implicit question of "is it expected for this kid to act this way?" and said hell yes, who wouldn't?
Mark is no longer a child, but a young man. He is responsible for his actions, shows his independence and makes his own decisions. I'm sorry, but 19 is not the age when you can say "he is small and stupid," at that time a person is already conscious. Although there may be a mentality at play here that you have been coming of age since 21, and we have been since 18. But Oliver is more conscious than Mark at times. But Oliver is really a child with a fragile psyche.
 
I hope they drive home how fast Conquest was beating Mark around the planet. I want to see environment transitions instead of shot cuts. Maybe they can give us a shot from space like with Nolan on the Flaxan homeworld.
 
I'm sorry, but 19 is not the age when you can say "he is small and stupid," at that time a person is already conscious.
Exactly, he's a young man and young men especially are pretty damn stupid and volatile and figuring out things. I tried to explain my point twice already but I think the best thing I can really say is give it some time, you'll realize you weren't much different at 17 or 16 than at 19 once you're a fair bit older.
Although there may be a mentality at play here that you have been coming of age since 21, and we have been since 18
Lol what are you implying?
 
Mark is no longer a child, but a young man. He is responsible for his actions, shows his independence and makes his own decisions. I'm sorry, but 19 is not the age when you can say "he is small and stupid," at that time a person is already conscious. Although there may be a mentality at play here that you have been coming of age since 21, and we have been since 18. But Oliver is more conscious than Mark at times. But Oliver is really a child with a fragile psyche.
Sitting around while the world burns

Like bro, they literally stopped one mark that attacked there 💀

It's a good thing Mark is flawed tho
 
I was watching some yt video and apparently the Viltrumites have physics manip and other stuff. Is this not canon or something? I don't see it on profile
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Exactly, he's a young man and young men especially are pretty damn stupid and volatile and figuring out things. I tried to explain my point twice already but I think the best thing I can really say is give it some time, you'll realize you weren't much different at 17 or 16 than at 19 once you're a fair bit older.
His decisions and behaviors constantly contradict each other. It looks like scripted stupidity
Lol what are you implying?
This is not a hint. I Googled it and realized that I was using misinformation from the media. I assumed that a person in the United States reaches the age of majority at 21. My thought was that due to the different figures of the age of majority in different countries, there may be a different concept of when a person is an "adult". However, due to my ignorance, I blurted out nonsense, I'm sorry.
 
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Sitting around while the world burns
Yes, that's exactly what it does.

-Hey, Mark. The whole world is in danger because of your clones. Your brother went to fight, but your mother is not under our protection, and other Invincibles will probably look for her. Will you help us figure out the problem?
- No, I'll be sitting next to my girlfriend, who suffered because of my stupidity
 
Against Paul, not Mark.
Yeah, but like, if he died there, then later on, so would Robot, Bulletproof, and Monster Girl, and then however many more people Retro Invincible could kill, which would probably include several other heroes, and then butterfly effect off all of them.
 
I mean, Frieza was a realtor, so if you think about it...
Nolan arrives on Earth and sees his ex-wife's new boyfriend:

-Are you serious about replacing me with this? You understand that I can smear it with just 1 finger. It's funny, because the only reason you could have chosen him was because he have really huge...
-Hakai...," Paul says, pointing his finger at the Omniman, and the wiltrumite slowly crumbles into atoms
 
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Yeah, but like, if he died there, then later on, so would Robot, Bulletproof, and Monster Girl, and then however many more people Retro Invincible could kill, which would probably include several other heroes, and then butterfly effect off all of them.
Good thing Mark went ahead and defended him against Paul.
 
Good thing Mark went ahead and defended him against Paul.
Yeah.
Nolan arrives on Earth and sees his ex-wife's new boyfriend:

-Are you serious about replacing me with this? You understand that I can smear it with just 1 finger. It's funny, because the only reason you could have chosen him was because he was really huge...
-Hakai...," Paul says, pointing his finger at the Omniman, and the wiltrumite slowly crumbles into atoms
"You see, Nolan, I am a multiversal constant. I am a god. I am Titlecard. I am InvinciPaul."
 
The series gave him a continental feat, the Texas meteor feat, "bench pressing the moon" and so on.I'd say they could give him a speed feat.
The continental feat is also the comic, but it's worse in the show since it doesn't have the "largest solar flare" statement, and I don't think taking a statement from Rex of all people is a good idea
 
why?just why?
What do you mean why, Rex is just a random guy with no scientific knowledge, how could he possibly know how much Invincible can lift just by watching him lift a machine.

His "statement" if we can even call it that is a perfect example of what a hyperbole is.
 
What do you mean why, Rex is just a random guy with no scientific knowledge, how could he possibly know how much Invincible can lift just by watching him lift a machine.

His "statement" if we can even call it that is a perfect example of what a hyperbole is.
you forget there is other feats the characters do that are fairly similar?
also this
 
You're going to be disappointed lmao
The "punching across continents" part isn't inherently too much to ask for, if that does actually happen during the Mark vs Conquest fight in the comics

Ofc I doubt the show's version will look as good as Super Sonic vs Super Shadow in that gif tho
 
Just throwing it out there but has anyone considered that, similar to all the other extended Marvel/DC verses, we should make a separate Verse Pages for the comics and the Tv Series?

They're both pretty different enough
 
Just throwing it out there but has anyone considered that, similar to all the other extended Marvel/DC verses, we should make a separate Verse Pages for the comics and the Tv Series?

They're both pretty different enough
Yes, please
 
We really shouldn't

The most changes they've done is chronology wise and a bit of characterization, scaling wise they're borderline the same. The profiles are pretty much the same and are arguably flawed, case in point, this isn't a "Immortal who scales" as we've gone over on this thread. Also, there's no reason not to use it as a reference for comic feats
 
We really shouldn't

The most changes they've done is chronology wise and a bit of characterization, scaling wise they're borderline the same. The profiles are pretty much the same and are arguably flawed, case in point, this isn't a "Immortal who scales" as we've gone over on this thread. Also, there's no reason not to use it as a reference for comic feats
Multi-media comic book verses like Marvel and DC do it for their cartoon shows/verses. Just put them in their own Navbox together.

Theres obviously key differences between the Comics and the Series, and would make the page a lot less crammed with both series' info.

And scaling wise, no they arent since counterparts such as Comic Invincible and TV Series Invincible are at different tiers, and the Series hasn't caught up or adapted the feats to back it up, and we don't know if there are any different directions that will be taken.

Theres also multiple Supporters/Opponents who only care about the TV Show specifically.
 
And scaling wise, no they arent since counterparts such as Comic Invincible and TV Series Invincible are at different tiers, and the Series hasn't caught up or adapted the feats to back it up, and we don't know if there are any different directions that will be taken.
You said it yourself, it's just because they haven't gotten to the big stuff yet, they'll be really redundant in the long run, and they haven't changed anything about the comic feats we've seen so far (besides missing the "solar flare" statement for the Maulers' nuke)

Like right now, there's a calc about the explosion that Angstrom tanked in the show, do we really have to wait for a TV Angstrom profile to use it when they're virtually it's virtually the same as in the comic ?
 
You said it yourself, it's just because they haven't gotten to the big stuff yet, they'll be really redundant in the long run, and they haven't changed anything about the comic feats we've seen so far (besides missing the "solar flare" statement for the Maulers' nuke)

Like right now, there's a calc about the explosion that Angstrom tanked using the show as a reference, do we really have to wait for a TV Angstrom profile to use it when they're virtually the same ?
Not redundant enough to make separate profiles for them. The Series might go in a different direction too. It really shouldn't matter or be 'redundant' when the two adaptations are different enough. Marvel and DC do it, and its not like the Image Comics Verse Page is very maintained. Might be worth making a Nav Box for it too

Yeah we probably shouldnt use Comic-based calcs to decide series-based stats, since the wiki making separate profiles for each adaptation makes it clear we treat them differently.

Like idk I feel we should hold it up to the current wiki standard, especially with how much the Tv Series has made Invincible far more mainstream. Helps with the prestige too
 
The Series might go in a different direction too.
I really don't understand this train of thought. Just because they've changed tertiary stuff in the show it doesn't mean they will also change plot relevant stuff, nothing could save Rex from his fate, people though Immortal might get a win against the evil Mark but he was easily defeated. Kirkman himself said that they want the show to stay true to the comics
Yeah we probably shouldnt use Comic-based calcs to decide series-based stats, since the wiki making separate profiles for each adaptation makes it clear we treat them differently.
I meant that the other way around, there's no reason not to use the show for something like timeframes for comic feats
 
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I really don't understand this train of thought. Just because they've changed tertiary stuff in the show it doesn't mean they will also change plot relevant stuff, nothing could save Rex from his fate. Kirkman himself said that they want the show to stay true to the comics
The fact is, they're different mediums for the story, and as such we are making separate profiles for both incarnations. Don't see how then, in that regard much like other similar Comic-verses do, we can't separate into two Verse pages and split the info since there are clearly dividing factors. And yeah, we honestly can't say what will happen since Kirkman clearly is changing things up for the better and giving more depth into some characters than he did from the comics.
I meant that the other way around, there's no reason not to use the show for something like timeframes for comic feats
Thats fine then ig but that doesn't mean we still can't separate them given we're now making profiles for both versions.
 
Don't see how then, in that regard much like other similar Comic-verses do, we can't separate into two Verse pages and split the info since there are clearly dividing factors
Factors that, for the purposes of the wiki, are pretty irrelevant
And yeah, we honestly can't say what will happen since Kirkman clearly is changing things up for the better and giving more depth into some characters than he did from the comics.
Which again, it's characterization-wise and not scaling-wise
 
Yeah, again, hardly when we're making separate profiles for Comic and Series versions anyway, yet apparently its redundant if you seem to think both the Comics and the Series incarnations of the characters are just gonna be exactly the same 🤷‍♂️

Like lets just follow the general standards for Comic verses like this idk
 
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