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Invincible season 3 discussion
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I recently watched episode 6, but I didn't have a chance to go to the forum.
I'd like to know your opinion, but in my opinion it's terrible.
Such unrealistic behavior of the characters simply can't help but catch the eye.
Knowing Mark, he wouldn't have hidden from Powerplex in the first place. You just don't believe in their conflict, because the author drags it out until the very end, artificially preventing them from meeting, and the antagonist himself is portrayed as a complete idiot every time. What can I say, is Powerplex himself not sure of his motivation? He does this to a large extent because his flame of hatred is kindled by his wife. He wants to stop every time, but he is pushed to go further.
Characters are complete idiots. Powerplex saw that his loved ones could suffer. He could have moved the fight to another place, but he was portrayed as an idiot. Mark is the same idiot. He could have saved the woman and child in a hurry, but he prefers to stand aside.
This is just a worthless attempt to squeeze a tear out of the viewer. But I don't feel sorry for the characters, because they are cardboard and faceless. On a purely human level, I only feel sorry for the child, because his parents are idiots.
It feels like I've watched Idiocracy. Everything that happens is so ridiculous.
I'd like to know your opinion, but in my opinion it's terrible.
Such unrealistic behavior of the characters simply can't help but catch the eye.
Knowing Mark, he wouldn't have hidden from Powerplex in the first place. You just don't believe in their conflict, because the author drags it out until the very end, artificially preventing them from meeting, and the antagonist himself is portrayed as a complete idiot every time. What can I say, is Powerplex himself not sure of his motivation? He does this to a large extent because his flame of hatred is kindled by his wife. He wants to stop every time, but he is pushed to go further.
Characters are complete idiots. Powerplex saw that his loved ones could suffer. He could have moved the fight to another place, but he was portrayed as an idiot. Mark is the same idiot. He could have saved the woman and child in a hurry, but he prefers to stand aside.
This is just a worthless attempt to squeeze a tear out of the viewer. But I don't feel sorry for the characters, because they are cardboard and faceless. On a purely human level, I only feel sorry for the child, because his parents are idiots.
It feels like I've watched Idiocracy. Everything that happens is so ridiculous.
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Powerplex was basically the most emotional person ever
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Dude wasn't sure what he was doing at all and was constantly doubting himself, acting on emotions. In this episode, he was simply made a laughing stock. And it's also an illustration of what happens when one idiot is bossed around by another idiot.
You know what the scene of his family's death reminded me of? How Murugori from One-Punch Man accidentally kills his brother because he mixed up the shoulder Saitama was sitting on.
Only One-Punch Man is a comedy, and here they are trying to make this event look like a tragedy
Ebihara
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I think most people act like idiots in this show most the time. Not saying I disagree with your conclusion of it being a weak episode.. I just think most charcters are so stupid every episode lol.
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So many people geeking out about them referencing the two-page spread of the Invincibles, but the art style and direction is so bland I can't really feel it
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Yes, the woman saw that she was almost fried by electric shock during her husband’s anger and could not come up with anything better than to bring him to the boiling point and take the child with her.
What were they thinking?
“Will our 4-year-old son benefit from watching a kill while in the kill zone?”
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With each new episode of Invincible, I get the feeling that I'm one of those viewers who are always complaining about the series, but... Amazon is clearly not coping.
They want to cover all the events of the comic, but also keep the audience interested all the time. And the fact that they are trying to transfer the original source almost frame-by-frame is unexpected, but it harms the quality of the show.
Did we need to spend 10 minutes watching the "hard life" of two bald villains who didn't think to direct their forces in the right direction? Did we really need an episode where they stopped a seismic villain? Did we really need the Chinese dragon and the mafia showdown? Not at all. Yes, I liked Titan in season 1, and we really needed the redemption of the Dark Wing. But why not just collide these characters in one arc and superimpose it on the main plot?
In fact, we have a waste of timekeeping. The events of the series only move when Allen and Omni-man escape from Prison and at the moment when Oliver kills the twins.
There are so many fillers this season, it feels like I've watched Naruto.
It's just absurd that, after spending so much time on unnecessary events, they decided to fit the War of the Invincibles into one episode. This could well be the main event of the season, and we could dedicate 3 episodes specifically to these events. Show more daring moves and action scenes. But 80% of the fights were left behind the scenes, and the series seriously prefers to spend time showing us worried couples, a sexist mummy, and a strong, independent female archaeologist, instead of showing us HOW INVINCIBLE'S FIGHT EVERYONE.
This episode reminded me of the Tokyo Ghoul film adaptation, where the studio contained 10 chapters in one 20-minute episode.
It felt like the studio had taken a lot of delicious ingredients from which it was possible to prepare a complex, incredibly delicious and mouth-watering dish, but simply put them in a blender and poured them into a bowl.
The only really worthwhile moments are Rex's death and Conquest's coming.
Rex's death was done even better than in the comic and really struck an emotional chord, even though there was a death flag hanging over him. However, due to the rush of the scriptwriters, we didn't really feel either its consequences or the reaction of the other characters. We were simply confronted with a fact.
The appearance of the Conquest is sudden, but absolutely unnecessary. All subsequent events simply will not be able to fit into one series, and the authors will also simply have to forget about other lines that developed in parallel.
But all this is purely about adaptation. As for the script, Mark is a soy boy who prefers to hold back even when his world is dying. I'm not even talking about the murders. He suppresses his speed and strength in the battle with Levi, instead of running behind him and breaking his limbs. He prefers to just push the Invincibles away, although he can break all their bones and take them out of the fight. If the extras can do it, then so can he. What the **** difference does it make if you break his jaw and spine? They'll heal anyway. There's no point in feeling sorry for them.
An immortal should have studied martial arts for thousands of years. In a similar period of time, Shen Wulong learned how to read opponents like a book, suppress superior strength, knock out with light touches, and a bunch of other shit. If the Immortal, seeing how inferior he was to the same Omni-man, had started training, then his fight with Mark would not have looked like "I'm pushing you 10 meters, waiting for you to say a line, I'll slowly fly up to you, I'll also hit you, knowing that it won't do any good and I'll throw you over the whole battlefield, instead of changing tactics."
They want to cover all the events of the comic, but also keep the audience interested all the time. And the fact that they are trying to transfer the original source almost frame-by-frame is unexpected, but it harms the quality of the show.
Did we need to spend 10 minutes watching the "hard life" of two bald villains who didn't think to direct their forces in the right direction? Did we really need an episode where they stopped a seismic villain? Did we really need the Chinese dragon and the mafia showdown? Not at all. Yes, I liked Titan in season 1, and we really needed the redemption of the Dark Wing. But why not just collide these characters in one arc and superimpose it on the main plot?
In fact, we have a waste of timekeeping. The events of the series only move when Allen and Omni-man escape from Prison and at the moment when Oliver kills the twins.
There are so many fillers this season, it feels like I've watched Naruto.
It's just absurd that, after spending so much time on unnecessary events, they decided to fit the War of the Invincibles into one episode. This could well be the main event of the season, and we could dedicate 3 episodes specifically to these events. Show more daring moves and action scenes. But 80% of the fights were left behind the scenes, and the series seriously prefers to spend time showing us worried couples, a sexist mummy, and a strong, independent female archaeologist, instead of showing us HOW INVINCIBLE'S FIGHT EVERYONE.
This episode reminded me of the Tokyo Ghoul film adaptation, where the studio contained 10 chapters in one 20-minute episode.
It felt like the studio had taken a lot of delicious ingredients from which it was possible to prepare a complex, incredibly delicious and mouth-watering dish, but simply put them in a blender and poured them into a bowl.
The only really worthwhile moments are Rex's death and Conquest's coming.
Rex's death was done even better than in the comic and really struck an emotional chord, even though there was a death flag hanging over him. However, due to the rush of the scriptwriters, we didn't really feel either its consequences or the reaction of the other characters. We were simply confronted with a fact.
The appearance of the Conquest is sudden, but absolutely unnecessary. All subsequent events simply will not be able to fit into one series, and the authors will also simply have to forget about other lines that developed in parallel.
But all this is purely about adaptation. As for the script, Mark is a soy boy who prefers to hold back even when his world is dying. I'm not even talking about the murders. He suppresses his speed and strength in the battle with Levi, instead of running behind him and breaking his limbs. He prefers to just push the Invincibles away, although he can break all their bones and take them out of the fight. If the extras can do it, then so can he. What the **** difference does it make if you break his jaw and spine? They'll heal anyway. There's no point in feeling sorry for them.
An immortal should have studied martial arts for thousands of years. In a similar period of time, Shen Wulong learned how to read opponents like a book, suppress superior strength, knock out with light touches, and a bunch of other shit. If the Immortal, seeing how inferior he was to the same Omni-man, had started training, then his fight with Mark would not have looked like "I'm pushing you 10 meters, waiting for you to say a line, I'll slowly fly up to you, I'll also hit you, knowing that it won't do any good and I'll throw you over the whole battlefield, instead of changing tactics."
Ebihara
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Sao alfheim type beat
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Ok, so, yeah. JDM as Conquest is going to need some time to simmer with me. The first line sounds like a John DiMaggio impression.
Also, Bulletproof seemed like he could go toe to toe with that Invincible varient. He wasn't busted up like in the comic. So, I assume Rex's Kawakami could be scaled to Bulletproof depending on where he himself lands at the end if the show in 50 years.
Also, Bulletproof seemed like he could go toe to toe with that Invincible varient. He wasn't busted up like in the comic. So, I assume Rex's Kawakami could be scaled to Bulletproof depending on where he himself lands at the end if the show in 50 years.
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I'm glad others feel the same way. I've seen the shills call critics of episode 6 apathetic monsters, sociopathic thugs and entitled immature kids all over social media for not feeling sorry for or crying over a stupid, poorly animated fictional character that kills his own family after being egged on by his wife and blames the clearly innocent main protagonist for their deaths (trauma nor grief doesn't excuse child murder).
Amazon has a really bad habit of prioritizing star power first and everything else second (from animation to writing), naturally I would like if Amazon put more budget towards the animation and art-style rather than big name celebrity VAs that (outside J.Ks great Nolan) vary from decent to just bad yet are clearly not on the level of experienced VAs like Johnny Yong Bosch, Jennifer Hale and Liam O'Brien that do their jobs brilliantly with noticeable less pay (ugh!), ofc more money =/= better animation and it's not like other popluar shows don't use bank animation, cut corners, pad out scenes, etc but it's so gratuitous where the budget for Invincible is going on top of the pressure the animators are going through with the deadlines while working with the small fraction of the budget allocated to them by Amazon, it's impossible to not notice the show getting sabotaged (outside unhealthy amounts of cope).
Makes me wonder what happens between Kirk, the animators and the Amazon execs behind close doors.
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i don't believe Amazon will put that much budget on series even if they are so good that they are the most watched (animated series to be specific)Hazbin Hotel was good, and even then, we will still get 8 episodes, with 22 minutes...BUT WITH MORE SONGS
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Obviously the show isn't doing dope-ass One Piece impact frames, but also that is an animation of a part that has not happened yet?
ShockingPsychic
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I'm all caught up
What would Powerplex's tier be? He claims he can hurt Mark with the upper limits of his power (and does manage to deal a lil bit of damage) AND takes a few casual hits from him, but scaling him to Mark feels wrong
His own feats are all 9-Bish. Lots of craters and building damage
Maybe something like "9-B physically and with powers, at most Low 6-B with powers"
I'm mainly just trying to figure out Shapesmith's new stuff lol
What would Powerplex's tier be? He claims he can hurt Mark with the upper limits of his power (and does manage to deal a lil bit of damage) AND takes a few casual hits from him, but scaling him to Mark feels wrong
His own feats are all 9-Bish. Lots of craters and building damage
Maybe something like "9-B physically and with powers, at most Low 6-B with powers"
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Pretty sure he's just supposed to have regular human physicals, evverything above that is due to his kinetic energy absorption
Also, what new stuff did Shapesmith get ?
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ShockingPsychic
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Regen and a couple of 9-B feats (that will upgrade his minimum from 9-C to 9-B)
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Didn't he kill an Alt. Invincible?
ShockingPsychic
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He fought one and then fried it, lol
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Yes don't know which one more done know how strong that version was
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To be fair, the community doesn’t necessarily have strict deadlines to meet or have to rely upon a budget to get things done.
Doesn’t help like 90% of the budget is also spent on all the VAs lol
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Certainly would have to be >=S1 Mark, since Angstrom thought they'd all be useful
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"This 19 something year old guy has been going through it ever since he got his powers and freezes in high stress situations" you don't say?
I have a lot to say about the show (things such as celebrity casting and animation), but given everything I think a strong point has always been how characters react to situations. Maybe I'm just old (and I am) but your feelings can twist your memories and judgement in messed up ways, you act irrationally and bad stuff can happen when you're not quite there.
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Don't take them seriously, they used the word soyboy unironically.
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A 19-year-old boy who has been involved in bloodbaths for two years now, dictates the rules to others from a position of strength and boldly threatens those who are weaker than him.
It didn't look like he was holding back against Kate's brother. The clones are also living people and are part of the original self, but he has found an excuse why he can kill them.
Cecil's cyborgs work on the basis of a human brain and use the nervous system and are still living beings, but he kills them even when they come to save him.
Should I remind you how he tried to imprison the Dark Wing, who literally saved his ass in a situation that everyone got into because Mark was holding back? Or that he deliberately threatened Sesil because he knew he could kill him with a touch of his finger?
Mark is already behaving like a selfish tyrant, and the only thing that separates him from Omniman is his "moral code."
And if he is furious and almost kills all the villains when they almost killed the Titan, and even if he went on to kill the Immortal for the good of the world, then he is absolutely capable of almost radical measures against his clones to stop the destruction of his world. By the way, how does Mark feel about clones? Oh, yes, not like people. He's killing them.
dude literally says, "I'm going to sit with my girl-chan, instead of raking the shit that started partly through my fault, despite the fact that now my mother, my brother and my best friend may die. Why is my girlfriend in the hospital? Oh, yes, that's why I didn't want to be tough with the killers, but after that, when the old fart arrives on Earth, I want to take it out on him to the fullest."
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Can you give me facts instead of these cheap speculations?
Tapkmiz
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So a kid is still figuring out questions of morality he doesn't quite understand but feels very strongly about while also juggling all the changes of young adulthood? He sounds like a pretty normal kid up until you realize he has to be a superhero who's been in near death situations ever since he got his powers and had the people around him be actively endangered by his superhero activities. And you're perplexed why he's broken by stress and fatigue? Adults break over less.
You're defensively reading something I didn't say at all. I never said Mark was right, quite the opposite, I said that you do bad things while not quite there from stress. I was only answering the implicit question of "is it expected for this kid to act this way?" and said hell yes, who wouldn't?
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I'm not speculating, that was a fact.
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Rex did die though?
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