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InFAMOUS: Possibly massive downgrade
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Hmm
Assuming it was the size of New York City, and they blew it up, that would be nearly baseline 7-A, assuming it was nuclear, which it appears to be
That said it was done basically after The Beast got done waking up, to which he had weeks to power up via being a living RSB
So ugh, yay > spam, I guess
If blast core multipliers were still valid I'd think they'd reach into High 7-A but as of right now they don't
Maybe there's something else in the comics we happened to miss
Assuming it was the size of New York City, and they blew it up, that would be nearly baseline 7-A, assuming it was nuclear, which it appears to be
That said it was done basically after The Beast got done waking up, to which he had weeks to power up via being a living RSB
So ugh, yay > spam, I guess
If blast core multipliers were still valid I'd think they'd reach into High 7-A but as of right now they don't
Maybe there's something else in the comics we happened to miss
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Rip the inFamous vs MCU timeline
Rip everything
I think we've basically got all the good feats from inFamous 1/Comics already. Off the top of my head, the only inF2 feats that could be worth calculation would maybe be the Bertrand Ray Sphere feat, Bertrand's KE when nearly reaching helicopter speed, and Cole draining that lighting storm for several seconds.
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what about the moon feat? that's still legit right?
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Yeah, the moon bust is fine
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Nice
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Before you wipe out Cole's win streak, check first if any of them are heavily focused on AP.
Prob not but maybe we can keep some? (Prob not)
Prob not but maybe we can keep some? (Prob not)
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Legit all of his wins relied on the fact that his AP was equal or somewhat close to his opponents, and that his versatility could make up the gap.
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Not really? Ikki's his AP meant nothing to Ikki
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I thought Teen did a calc of the empire city explosion?
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@Schnee
I meant Good Cole. Thought, iirc, didn't claim that Evil Cole gets hit at least once, only surviving due to regen?
@DMUA
That bit where Bertrand activates a Ray Sphere in order to get powers. It's created a pretty major crater (at least as big as the one in Empire City) and iirc it was a much cleaner crater with the exception of a few bodies. I'll find it later if so can.
I meant Good Cole. Thought, iirc, didn't claim that Evil Cole gets hit at least once, only surviving due to regen?
@DMUA
That bit where Bertrand activates a Ray Sphere in order to get powers. It's created a pretty major crater (at least as big as the one in Empire City) and iirc it was a much cleaner crater with the exception of a few bodies. I'll find it later if so can.
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Ikki doesnt do physical damage with phantom form. We discussed that.
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Ah, forgot about that
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So let me straight, the High 6-C InFamous would be downgraded to 7-A or something?
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Yes
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Ah alright, just to make sure that i read the thread right lel
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Bump.
So I think we're left with the Empire City Explosion the Beast made.
So I think we're left with the Empire City Explosion the Beast made.
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Well according to DMUA, all we really need is to adjust Teen's calc to account for the non-destroyed bits, which should get us around baseline 7A.
I'm guessing we can't do the same to New Marais explosion due to the still standing buildings close to the epicenter?
Btw here's the clip of the Bertrand Ray Sphere feat, but I kinda doubt it'll break tier 6
I'm guessing we can't do the same to New Marais explosion due to the still standing buildings close to the epicenter?
Btw here's the clip of the Bertrand Ray Sphere feat, but I kinda doubt it'll break tier 6
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They quite literally overlay it exactly with the empire city explosion so I think it just would get the exact same results
That said though, out of curiosity, does InFAMOUS 1 somehow give a size to the city or should we just assume New York, make that blog and call it there?
That said though, out of curiosity, does InFAMOUS 1 somehow give a size to the city or should we just assume New York, make that blog and call it there?
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I think its best we just assume New York since the city's size is never exactly stated except for the general size of the population.
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BUMP
Y'know, even if I'm sad about High 6-C inFamous going under, at least we'll still have Beast Cole to carry the verse
Y'know, even if I'm sad about High 6-C inFamous going under, at least we'll still have Beast Cole to carry the verse
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I could probably make a blog for nuking New York and call it there
That said, Blast Cores are stated to be multipliers, right? I know the Ray Sphere didn't really have any backing behind it but we may have to reconsider when there's no big tier jump. There isn't any contradiction with them being like, what
124.9521714175638×2^5 is 3.9984694853620416 Gigatons? There's the Second Son stuff but I don't think them having a multiplier is particularly contradictory either, just the blast cores work differently for some reason
Also, something I thought about a bit ago: we note on The Beast's profile that he's a living RSB that would constantly power himself up, right? So he'd have powered up with Cole just like Cole was powering up, and Cole doing damage to The Beast at the beginning of the game kinda makes sense
Which doesn't really mean anything now, but eh
That said, Blast Cores are stated to be multipliers, right? I know the Ray Sphere didn't really have any backing behind it but we may have to reconsider when there's no big tier jump. There isn't any contradiction with them being like, what
124.9521714175638×2^5 is 3.9984694853620416 Gigatons? There's the Second Son stuff but I don't think them having a multiplier is particularly contradictory either, just the blast cores work differently for some reason
Also, something I thought about a bit ago: we note on The Beast's profile that he's a living RSB that would constantly power himself up, right? So he'd have powered up with Cole just like Cole was powering up, and Cole doing damage to The Beast at the beginning of the game kinda makes sense
Which doesn't really mean anything now, but eh
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And High 6A Beast.PTSOXMONKEY99 said:
Also 7A Cole means SOOOOOOOOOOOOO many ideas.
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@DMUA
Honestly I think we should have a separate discussion on how to treat Ray Sphere, Blast Core and Core Relay's a power boosts, cause all of them seem to give different power ups. I posted about it in the other discussion thread but didn't really get a chance to go too in depth with it
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We can finally have proper OPM vs inFamous matches
Honestly I think we should have a separate discussion on how to treat Ray Sphere, Blast Core and Core Relay's a power boosts, cause all of them seem to give different power ups. I posted about it in the other discussion thread but didn't really get a chance to go too in depth with it
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Garou vs Cole bois
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Didn't we already do that and Cole won?
Not that I mind mind you. I look forward to that
Not that I mind mind you. I look forward to that
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No? That was an Incon
Garou lost to Kessler.
Garou lost to Kessler.
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Bump
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My msg didn't patch through... Anyway in that case (I think I voted for Garou too) it's likely Garou's elec resistance won't help as much maybe
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Bump again,
All we need to do is fix the calc that's literally it.
All we need to do is fix the calc that's literally it.
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Actually
Spino already did this way back whe
So we could just apply this and call it there
But, whatever PTSO was talking about with blast cores should be dealt with before we hand out 7-A to everyone
Spino already did this way back whe
So we could just apply this and call it there
But, whatever PTSO was talking about with blast cores should be dealt with before we hand out 7-A to everyone
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Who says to make a CRT regarding multipliers and stats? I'm going to be in work.
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Should we redo Cole vs Anne Mayer? Or is the AP too high?
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4.9x AP gap.
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That kinda ignores the massive scaling chain Cole goes through
Let alone The Beast did that after waking up
Let alone The Beast did that after waking up
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