Ikki Kurogane vs Sabi Hakuhei

[Edwellken]

Man I haven't made a vs thread in a while.

Anyway this was made on request and I know very little about either of these guys.

Pre-SSSAF Ikki

Speed equal.

Sabi Hakuhei:

Ikki Kurogane:

Samurai Jack: 2

 

[Creaturemaster971]

Okay. So there's some new info about Sabi Hakuhei that needs to be added to his page (and the other Katanagatari pages)

So give me just a bit to complete the revision

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

I think this can continue now, yes?

 

[Creaturemaster971]

Indeed it can.

Be right back with my input

 

[Creaturemaster971]

Do I dare bring Earl's wrath down upon me?

Yes I do

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Ok so

First
Ikki omega stomps in all categories:

• Skill (We can debate this, but the only one who can be even argued to be on the same ballpark as Ikki in terms of skill is Nanami, Sabi although skilled in his own right, can't compete here)

• AP (97.6 tons at base)

• Stat Amp (even right now it's a 10x/min and 100x/sec stat amp)

And more

Second
Did i not say Rakudai is in revisions? Ikki will be getting MUCH stronger. He will stomp harder than he already does.

 

[Creaturemaster971]

Katanagatari has also gotten a big skill boost with the revisions, which applies to almost all characters.

That said, I will agree that Ikki is far more versatile here.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

And you're comparing to pre revision Ikki. Post revision ikki, spoiler alert will have stat amps that absolutely dwarf the current ones, more skill feats (which will put him above Nanami imo, but i will legit make a thread Nanami vs Ikki and a thread about Nanami vs Ikki but skill fights), more abilities, a REALLY tough to break sword, resistances to some stuff and depending on how things go he'll even have hax...pretty strong hax, but that won't apply to all his keys.

 

[Edwellken]

Should I change to Pre-SSSAF then

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Should I change to Pre-SSSAF the

Nothing besides AP changes. But the current AP is wrong for the profiles cus the calc is no longer valid. You should just wait until Rakudai is out of revisions, then maybe you can throw ikki at everyone from katanagatari.

 

[Christian_Higdon]

Samurai Jack via being better ovo

 

[Jackythejack]

Samurai Jack via being better ovo

Jack FRA

 

[Edwellken]

I mean I made this only as a request so I don't think I'll be throwing him at anyone later.

Even if the profiles are wrong currently, there's no harm in just having a debate in the meantime and I'm fine with this not being added.

I'll just see how switching goes.

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

Yeah I think wait for revisions before matches. Ikki has been spammed for days now.

 

[Creaturemaster971]

You know what I'd love to see? Ikki fighting against Kanara Azekura and the two just continually redirecting each other's first attack at each other infinitely, Yu-Gi-Oh style

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

Trap Card - Trackless Step

 

[Christian_Higdon]

Jack FRA

Person of culture.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Well if you guys wanna debate it's fine then. As I said though ikki has the skill advantage and speed amps.

 

[Creaturemaster971]

Okay so if we go by those two factors, Hakuhei instantly masters any object and can wield them as a sword so precisely that his movements are utterly perfect down to a microscopic level and can cancel out distance by cutting through air, whether that be a paper umbrella or a blade made of hyper-thin glass. Hakuhei would be capable of using said umbrella to even kill the equivalent of living superweapons by getting round their hax via sheer skill, like Ikki.

On top of that, similar to Assassination Classroom, Katanagatari has an insane scaling chain of skill.

He also has a speed amp (which he leads with in-character) superior to one that brings someone from baseline Subsonic to Supersonic, on top of greater agility.

Plus having ways to counter precog to an extent.

I'm sure Ikki has counter methods, just laying the cards on the table

 

[Huesito88]

"(We can debate this, but the only one who can be even argued to be on the same ballpark as Ikki in terms of skill is Nanami, Sabi although skilled in his own right, can't compete here)"

Lol no

 

[Firephoenixearl]

"(We can debate this, but the only one who can be even argued to be on the same ballpark as Ikki in terms of skill is Nanami, Sabi although skilled in his own right, can't compete here)"

Lol no

Not even nanami?

 

[Huesito88]

Not just Nanami.

 

[Creaturemaster971]

Begrudgingly prepares for battle

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Unironically prepares to crash the skill limiter when rakudai revisions are over

 

[Huesito88]

Hahaha we'll see =)

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Oh yes we will. I will make nanami vs ikki once it is over.

 

[Creaturemaster971]

Start with Ikki vs Katanagatari fodder OvO