iggy and the fool 8-C upgrade

[ZillertheBucko]

Ok this one gonna be quick
Iggy should be 8-C, not sure why he's even 9-A to begin with
1. Jotaro wondered if he would be able to beat iggy, which is suggesting that his strength may be comparable
2. He damaged avdol when he was being captured by him
3. He was able to clash with Ndoul's stand after he was thrown by star platinum
4. Polnareff thought he would have been able to kill vanilla ice with the fake dio

and for whatever it's worth, iggy easily overpowers chariot's lifting strength

 

[KingTempest]

oof, makes sense

 

[ZillertheBucko]

oof, makes sense

a reply without needing to bump it 30 times
this does put a smile on my face

 

[KingTempest]

a reply without needing to bump it 30 times
this does put a smile on my face

I have the content revision section followed, which means I get a notification whenever a CRT is made + goes to my emails. Technically I see every CRT on our wiki, least I can do is pop in

 

[ZillertheBucko]

I have the content revision section followed, which means I get a notification whenever a CRT is made + goes to my emails. Technically I see every CRT on our wiki, least I can do is pop in

ahhh makes sense now

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

I have the content revision section followed, which means I get a notification whenever a CRT is made + goes to my emails. Technically I see every CRT on our wiki, least I can do is pop in

Same, without the notification thing. I just go one by one until I reach ones I already read. ovo

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Oh yeah, and I agree with this. Though I believe the reason he was downgraded is because he didn't have a direct feat to scale? Don't remember correctly.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

Oh yeah, and I agree with this. Though I believe the reason he was downgraded is because he didn't have a direct feat to scale? Don't remember correctly.

hmmmmm
I mean it's true that the closest thing to a direct feat is vanilla ice I guess, but when the evidence stacks up like this I feel like it just becomes kinda silly to say you're taking the more logical side saying it's wrong yknow
but people often forget author intentions, which probably is related to the issue

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

but people often forget author intentions, which probably is related to the issue

It's more like, we ignore it unless it has validity in the work itself.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

It's more like, we ignore it unless it has validity in the work itself.

the validity is pretty much in the statements of people saying how strong iggy is and stuff

 

[ZillertheBucko]

well at least in this particular situation

 

[StekFence]

Lets not forget Josephs stand is supposedly the weakest and is rated at tier 8. Although ig thats kinda weak evi

 

[Chariot190]

1. Jotaro wondered if he would be able to beat iggy, which is suggesting that his strength may be comparable

Ignoring context, that's straight up in reference to The Fool being a logia, he can't beat The Fool via punching, it wont do anything.

2. He damaged avdol when he was being captured by him

Anime only.

3. He was able to clash with Ndoul's stand after he was thrown by star platinum

They simply protected themselves, he isn't clashing with Geb, all either of them is doing is stopping the momentum from SP's toss, which wouldn't be anything beyond 9-B+ if you calced it.

4. Polnareff thought he would have been able to kill vanilla ice with the fake dio

A Vanilla Ice they at the time they thought was completely human and not a vampire and they were gonna do it via surprise attack. (Cream turns around, and not only blocks its attack but overpowers said punch to the point it blows The Fool's arm off, showing The Fool isnt even in the general ballpark as Cream).

Killing human Ice is only a 9-B feat fyi.

and for whatever it's worth, iggy easily overpowers chariot's lifting strength

Chariot's LS is like, Class 1-5 at best.

Again, this is ignoring context, as to why any of these things are stated. The Fool's best feat is 9-A, hence why he scales to 9-A. He doesn't have anything scaling to 8-C, the reason why characters like Jotaro is like "damn he's a bit of a issue" is because he's a logia, this is outright stated. You can't beat him because he just regens and morphs from the damage.

 

[KingTempest]

being a logia,

because he's a logia

I love this

 

[Chariot190]

I love this

It be true.

Anyway, the reason why Jotaro thinks The Fool might be a issue to beat is for the same reason why SP punching Justice didn't do anything and Enya laughed at how stupid he was for thinking punching literal fog would do anything. Same with Ice, The Fool being able to kill a, at the time, 9-B human by taking him by surprise, isn't the same as killing a vampire Ice.

If Iggy is getting an upgrade, it's because Pet Shop would be getting one.
Which he might, I noticed the calc we use for him is a bit undersold, it makes sense in a vacuum, but we're actually told that, in the Pet Shop arc itself, that it was hot as **** out that day, meaning the shifts in temp that Pet Shop would need to do to freeze air/water would be higher, thus getting a higher yield. So The Fool is probably higher then he's being given credit for, but we'd need a recalc of that first.

 

[EmilioRory10]

I still don't understand how Silver Chariot can cut through fire yet it can't cut through fog or sand

 

[Chariot190]

I still don't understand how Silver Chariot can cut through fire yet it can't cut through fog or sand

I mean, he can, it just won't do permanent damage.
The fire thing was weird but iirc that had to do with like creating a vacuum in the fire, however the **** that works.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

Ignoring context, that's straight up in reference to The Fool being a logia, he can't beat The Fool via punching, it wont do anything.



Anime only.



They simply protected themselves, he isn't clashing with Geb, all either of them is doing is stopping the momentum from SP's toss, which wouldn't be anything beyond 9-B+ if you calced it.



A Vanilla Ice they at the time they thought was completely human and not a vampire and they were gonna do it via surprise attack. (Cream turns around, and not only blocks its attack but overpowers said punch to the point it blows The Fool's arm off, showing The Fool isnt even in the general ballpark as Cream).

Killing human Ice is only a 9-B feat fyi.



Chariot's LS is like, Class 1-5 at best.

Again, this is ignoring context, as to why any of these things are stated. The Fool's best feat is 9-A, hence why he scales to 9-A. He doesn't have anything scaling to 8-C, the reason why characters like Jotaro is like "damn he's a bit of a issue" is because he's a logia, this is outright stated. You can't beat him because he just regens and morphs from the damage.

I should’ve known
Well ****

 

[ZillertheBucko]

so in other words the anime only thing isn’t canon? do we ever do separate keys for anime and manga for situations like that then?

 

[Chariot190]

It's not all bad, I'm actually looking over Pet Shop's feats atm, there's some stuff that at the very least I see getting higher results then what he and Iggy are working off of right now, not gonna say 8-C because I don't know yet, but should at least be 9-A+, but then again ya never know. Don't get your hopes up for 8-C, but if it ends up being that, well then lucky you.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

It's not all bad, I'm actually looking over Pet Shop's feats atm, there's some stuff that at the very least I see getting higher results then what he and Iggy are working off of right now, not gonna say 8-C because I don't know yet, but should at least be 9-A+, but then again ya never know. Don't get your hopes up for 8-C, but if it ends up being that, well then lucky you.

Well
That’s something I guess

 

[Chariot190]

so in other words the anime only thing isn’t canon? do we ever do separate keys for anime and manga for situations like that then?

Personally, anime is fine to use if it's 1:1 (Like, if a feat in the anime is portrayed identically to the manga, that's fine I guess). But brand new shit added to the anime, unique differences, etc aren't, unless done by Araki himself (such as the Part 5 backstory scenes).

If we used anime shit, for example, Dio would be able to turn into shadows and darkness, literally, and he'd have tier 7 SRSE. Some of the anime shit is suspect as ****. Honestly I'd just say if ya wanna use anime new additions and the like, stick with Part 5, Part 5 is Part we know that Araki actually did some shit for.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

Well that’s unfortunate
I just can’t believe how fast this thread rose and fell
Guess I’ll find something else to do then

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Well that’s unfortunate
I just can’t believe how fast this thread rose and fell
Guess I’ll find something else to do then

It happens sometimes ayy.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

Well I might as well keep the thread open at least until the pet shop thing happens

 

[TyranoDoom30]

Disagree FRA

 

[ZillertheBucko]

Disagree FRA

me too man, me too....