Ichibei being 100X Planetary?

[M_Animefan]

Story time:
I am debating someone who’s using the scan to prove that Ichibe has time manipulation and the attack potency of 100 planets since he is stealing 100 years night from the soul society.

what do you guys think and how do I counter an argument like this?

 

[Jibz]

That is hax and doesnt scale to ap in any way shape or form. Merely “stealing days” doesnt generate any joules nor cause destruction relative to that level so it literally cant be planetary ap.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Spoiler

Bleach doesn't get past Mountain level what do you mean he is Planetary

Btw i don't know how that scales. That's an EE i think it has nothing to do with. AP.

 

[M_Animefan]

Spoiler

Bleach doesn't get past Mountain level what do you mean he is Planetary

Btw i don't how that scales. That's an EE i think it has nothing to do with. AP.

So you believe bleach isn’t planetary?

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

That's Hax no AP, how the hell would you even calculate steeling 100 Nights.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

So you believe bleach isn’t planetary?

Spoiler

I scale him to high uni to uni+ outside the wiki. Universal Bleach ain't a thing in wiki no more

 

[M_Animefan]

That's Hax no AP, how the hell would you even calculate steeling 100 Nights.

Alright this is his argument before my Post here, when i told him it’s hax:

„You're still on "there's no way to quantify stealing nights, so this is conceptual manipulation" when it's already explained to you that it doesn't matter. The facts is that he did this through Reiatsu, which stems directly from Reiryoku, which scales to the potency of a fighter in Bleach. Ichibe could've twerked into stealing 100 nights, sneezed them into existence, made them up by accident, etc. without ever physically moving his body and it'd still scale to his potency.

I'm not quantifying shit because we're given the result already. In fact you don't quantify anything in which you're already given the level of the ability/user.

All this sounds like is that you're coping because you can't actually debunk Ichibe's confirmed power level.“ so how do I counter this? Lol…

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Alright this is his argument before my Post here, when i told him it’s hax:

„You're still on "there's no way to quantify stealing nights, so this is conceptual manipulation" when it's already explained to you that it doesn't matter. The facts is that he did this through Reiatsu, which stems directly from Reiryoku, which scales to the potency of a fighter in Bleach. Ichibe could've twerked into stealing 100 nights, sneezed them into existence, made them up by accident, etc. without ever physically moving his body and it'd still scale to his potency.

I'm not quantifying shit because we're given the result already. In fact you don't quantify anything in which you're already given the level of the ability/user.

All this sounds like is that you're coping because you can't actually debunk Ichibe's confirmed power level.“ so how do I counter this? Lol…

Makes kinda sense. Yeah even if it's EE it's Conceptual manipulation and did it thru Reiastu. I see

 

[M_Animefan]

Makes kinda sense. Yeah even if it's EE it's Conceptual manipulation and did it thru Reiastu. I see

So hes making a valid point?

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

So hes making a valid point?

Actually I am not sure man. If it's bleach inverse i would argue that higher SP negate hax but if it's crossover i can't help it. Sorry

 

[Swerzye29038]

Alright this is his argument before my Post here, when i told him it’s hax:

„You're still on "there's no way to quantify stealing nights, so this is conceptual manipulation" when it's already explained to you that it doesn't matter. The facts is that he did this through Reiatsu, which stems directly from Reiryoku, which scales to the potency of a fighter in Bleach. Ichibe could've twerked into stealing 100 nights, sneezed them into existence, made them up by accident, etc. without ever physically moving his body and it'd still scale to his potency.

I'm not quantifying shit because we're given the result already. In fact you don't quantify anything in which you're already given the level of the ability/user.

All this sounds like is that you're coping because you can't actually debunk Ichibe's confirmed power level.“ so how do I counter this? Lol…

you can't really counter it unless there's missing information on how AP works on the verse. What he said is pretty clear cut and he gave reasonable justifications

 

[M_Animefan]

you can't really counter it unless there's missing information on how AP works on the verse. What he said is pretty clear cut and he gave reasonable justifications

So Ichibei is 100X times planetary?

 

[Confluctor]

No he is not

 

[M_Animefan]

No he is not

And why not? :/

 

[Confluctor]

Why would he be?

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

Why would he be?

10/10 counter

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Ya considering all abilities are Reitasu-based, he affected the entire Seireties Day & Night Cycle a hundred times over in the future. Even if it's not directly 100X it's definitely a high-level feat.

 

[M_Animefan]

Why would he be?

Funny I was thinking you actually have a respond.

 

[Confluctor]

That is a response tho

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

reiatsu based abilities does not always translate to AP

reiatsu when physically fighting is important as u must need a strong body to hold it, and be comparable to ur oponent to harm them

but reiatsu can also be use in other forms, putting the energy in an attack like kido

what ichibe did is not really AP related but hax related by using his power over the color black

 

[M_Animefan]

reiatsu based abilities does not always translate to AP

reiatsu when physically fighting is important as u must need a strong body to hold it, and be comparable to ur oponent to harm them

but reiatsu can also be use in other forms, putting the energy in an attack like kido

what ichibe did is not really AP related but hax related by using his power over the color black

But isn’t Kido Ap based too? Remember when Aizen said that he could only use third of Kurohitsugis power in soul society arc but in butterfly form he used the full power kurohitsugi! So doesn’t this mean that Ichibes Ap is relevant here?

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

reiatsu based abilities does not always translate to AP

reiatsu when physically fighting is important as u must need a strong body to hold it, and be comparable to ur oponent to harm them

but reiatsu can also be use in other forms, putting the energy in an attack like kido

what ichibe did is not really AP related but hax related by using his power over the color black

But isn’t Kido Ap based too? Remember when Aizen said that he could only use third of Kurohitsugis power in soul society arc but in butterfly form he used the full power kurohitsugi! So doesn’t this mean that Ichibes Ap is relevant here?

I would say even if consider it as hax there should be somewhat AP.

I mean for example Kaguya ETSO is considered as hax but it's scaled to star level AP. Like that we should consider this I think.