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Plot is really over the top and Caliborn does have that. Though, even with plot, Goji could handle him with Bahamuk form.
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Huge Debate thread
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but that's above the version we're using for thisChristian Higdon said:
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Its the strongest hax, at its highest, this hax can play with GodYellowpig10 said:
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Well, i know that, but if we use the other forms, it's a clear cut obvious stomp.Yellowpig10 said:
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Causality Manipulaiton uses:Uselessnoob245 said:
- Reality Warping
- Probability Manipulation
- Logic Manipulation
- Physics Manipulation
- Superpower Manipulation
- Creation
- Nothingness Manipulation
- Power Negation
- Healing
- Resurrection
- Biological Manipulation
- Mental Manipulation
- Invulnerability
- Immortality
- Shapeshifting
- Reactive Evolution
- Cyber Mind
- Intuitive Aptitude
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I don't see Plot Manip in there.
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Plot Manipulation<Reality Warping<Causality ManipulationChristian Higdon said:
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Plot is WAY above Reality Warping.
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Give me reasons, I NEED PROOFChristian Higdon said:
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Dude, isn't it obvious why? Reality Warping, yes you can change rules, but Plot Manip is where you can change anything you want in the story. You can literally die and then rewrite it so you still exist.
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Plot Manipulation is a variation to Reality WarpingChristian Higdon said:
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No. Plot Manip is way more than that. If it was, it would be a stronger variation.
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Causality Manipulation, you can undo anything
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Yeah, so what? Plot can do so too, and even more.
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Plot manipulation can allow you to simply re-write someones abilties and remove Causality Manipulaiton, not that you'd need to because if you control the plot then you can just say that nothing that character does can hurt me no matter how much Causality Manipulaiton he uses
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And also he can get rid of him by saying "You're not part of this."
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that's literally what monika did with her plot manipChristian Higdon said:
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And also Chowder.Yellowpig10 said:
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Causality Manipulation can mess with LogicYellowpig10 said:
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which is something that would be in the plotUselessnoob245 said:
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Plot Manip destroys logic altogether.
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EVERYTHING is subject to the plot
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Another possibility is the instant rewriting of a whole reality, by making Reality X (the current reality) the cause of Reality Y (a tailor-made one).Yellowpig10 said:
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Plot Manip can overwrite more realities.
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With Causality Manipulation, you can decide what happens with cause and effect,
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which is something that is subject to the plotUselessnoob245 said:
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i can't even believe we're having this conversation
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Why? Plot vs Causality is an odd conversation indeed.
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Because it's so clear that plot is above causalityChristian Higdon said:
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Now, plot vs plot would be interesting.
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Plot is to change the story and setting, create/destroy stories, its only a variation of Reality Warping, With Causality Manipulation, you can choose what happens first, unless they have AcausalityYellowpig10 said:
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That's also called Plot Manip. and even then, all of what you said, a plot manipulator can do better. Why even argue?
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NO! DON'T USE THAT WIKI! IT CAN BE BIASED AT TIMES!
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Many powers of Superpower Wiki is mostly inaccurate
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Mostly, but Plot's correct there. Still way above Causality.
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If only I had causality manipulation to undo this
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A user with Causality Manipulation can choose a path if the other user is going to rewrite the Plot or not, unless they have Acausality
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this thread is such a train wreck, we were gonna do another fight debate but we didn't have enough characters to do 5 for everyone and it just became a pissing contest over which power is better
