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Plot is really over the top and Caliborn does have that. Though, even with plot, Goji could handle him with Bahamuk form.
 
Christian Higdon said:
Plot is really over the top and Caliborn does have that. Though, even with plot, Goji could handle him with Bahamuk form.
but that's above the version we're using for this
 
Yellowpig10 said:
Christian Higdon said:
Plot is really over the top and Caliborn does have that. Though, even with plot, Goji could handle him with Bahamuk form.
but that's above the version we're using for this
Well, i know that, but if we use the other forms, it's a clear cut obvious stomp.
 
Uselessnoob245 said:
Yellowpig10 said:
Uselessnoob245 said:
Causality Manipulation is the strongest ability out there,
No that would go to plot manipulation
Its the strongest hax, at its highest, this hax can play with God
Causality Manipulaiton uses:

 
Dude, isn't it obvious why? Reality Warping, yes you can change rules, but Plot Manip is where you can change anything you want in the story. You can literally die and then rewrite it so you still exist.
 
Christian Higdon said:
Dude, isn't it obvious why? Reality Warping, yes you can change rules, but Plot Manip is where you can change anything you want in the story. You can literally die and then rewrite it so you still exist.
Plot Manipulation is a variation to Reality Warping
 
Plot manipulation can allow you to simply re-write someones abilties and remove Causality Manipulaiton, not that you'd need to because if you control the plot then you can just say that nothing that character does can hurt me no matter how much Causality Manipulaiton he uses
 
Yellowpig10 said:
Plot manipulation can allow you to simply re-write someones abilties and remove Causality Manipulaiton, not that you'd need to because if you control the plot then you can just say that nothing that character does can hurt me no matter how much Causality Manipulaiton he uses
Causality Manipulation can mess with Logic
 
Uselessnoob245 said:
Yellowpig10 said:
Plot manipulation can allow you to simply re-write someones abilties and remove Causality Manipulaiton, not that you'd need to because if you control the plot then you can just say that nothing that character does can hurt me no matter how much Causality Manipulaiton he uses
Causality Manipulation can mess with Logic
which is something that would be in the plot
 
Yellowpig10 said:
Uselessnoob245 said:
Yellowpig10 said:
Plot manipulation can allow you to simply re-write someones abilties and remove Causality Manipulaiton, not that you'd need to because if you control the plot then you can just say that nothing that character does can hurt me no matter how much Causality Manipulaiton he uses
Causality Manipulation can mess with Logic
which is something that would be in the plot
Another possibility is the instant rewriting of a whole reality, by making Reality X (the current reality) the cause of Reality Y (a tailor-made one).
 
Yellowpig10 said:
Christian Higdon said:
Why? Plot vs Causality is an odd conversation indeed.
Because it's so clear that plot is above causality
Plot is to change the story and setting, create/destroy stories, its only a variation of Reality Warping, With Causality Manipulation, you can choose what happens first, unless they have Acausality
 
That's also called Plot Manip. and even then, all of what you said, a plot manipulator can do better. Why even argue?
 
A user with Causality Manipulation can choose a path if the other user is going to rewrite the Plot or not, unless they have Acausality
 
this thread is such a train wreck, we were gonna do another fight debate but we didn't have enough characters to do 5 for everyone and it just became a pissing contest over which power is better
 
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