How would this be treated?

[Rikimarox2]

Basically, there are concepts in the novel (type 1), but those concepts are made of laws and principles, dictating that laws are more fundamental than concepts. Then, there are Ideas, which are more fundamental than everything I mentioned.

How would we treat the law and ideas stuff? Do we just treat as normal, ie normal Law manip? But what about Ideas?

 

[Rikimarox2]

Bumpty

 

[Rikimarox2]

Bump

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

Basically, there are concepts in the novel (type 1), but those concepts are made of laws and principles, dictating that laws are more fundamental than concepts. Then, there are Ideas, which are more fundamental than everything I mentioned.

How would we treat the law and ideas stuff? Do we just treat as normal, ie normal Law manip? But what about Ideas?

it would be conceptual law hax, ideas would be higher level of concept hax

 

[Rikimarox2]

By higher level, do you mean just a single layer, or something more? If the latter, how would that be treated in vsmatches?

Also, thanks for the input.

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

By higher level, do you mean just a single layer, or something more? If the latter, how would that be treated in vsmatches?

Also, thanks for the input.

single layer

 

[Rikimarox2]

Feels kinda weird since the verse already has higher layers, and ideas are stated to be beyond all of them. Like, even when the universe (which is a dream) is destroyed by the dude who is dreaming the universe waking up. Including concepts, but ideas would still persist.

Keep in mind, the concepts are type 1.

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

Feels kinda weird since the verse already has higher layers, and ideas are stated to be beyond all of them. Like, even when the universe (which is a dream) is destroyed by the dude who is dreaming the universe waking up. Including concepts, but ideas would still persist.

Keep in mind, the concepts are type 1.

it is how we treat concept hax, more fundenmental equals more layer

 

[Rikimarox2]

I suppose I'll take it. Tho, considering ideas survived the destruction of 5D shenanigans and continued to exist, I assume that makes them 5-D?

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

I suppose I'll take it. Tho, considering ideas survived the destruction of 5D shenanigans and continued to exist, I assume that makes them 5-D?

yes

 

[Rikimarox2]

Nice, we take those.

Ty for the input.