How should this calc be done?

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

I had created this calc which seemed simple on first glace: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Hagane_no_Saiyajin/Elzar_Mann_throws_a_sky-island

However @Dalesean027 said that it should be better to use GPE over assuming a velocity

But the problem is that we don't know how much the vertical displacement is for the sky island either, and it's not how high the island is above the ground as it was floating there before.

Also, I had looked at every ship that appeared in the novel on Wookiepedia, and I have not seen an atmospheric speed given to to any ship, we only have ships used during the Clone Wars era for any official speeds.

What should be done for the calc?

 

[Phsccarvalho]

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[Epyriel]

I think it is reasonable to assume the sky-island dropped and then was lifted at least its own height’s worth of distance given the description of “The sky-island had changed direction, slicing up where moments before it was tumbling down, soaring through the air like a discus thrown by a giant” for the sake of a GPE calc.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

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[Ruby_R_Dracula]

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[Ruby_R_Dracula]

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[DaReaperMan]

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[Drite77]

I think Dalesan should likely be consulted again, as I don't think GPE can really be used as far as I can see, since the Jedi isn't exactly lifting it, he is just moving a island that is already floating

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

I think Dalesan should likely be consulted again, as I don't think GPE can really be used as far as I can see, since the Jedi isn't exactly lifting it, he is just moving a island that is already floating

That would not be a problem if Dal was willing to help out here

 

[Epyriel]

I think Dalesan should likely be consulted again, as I don't think GPE can really be used as far as I can see, since the Jedi isn't exactly lifting it, he is just moving a island that is already floating

I think GPE works since the island in question was damaged and falling to the ground before being lifted back up by Elzar:

The final sky-island was falling, but even that, terrible though it was, wasn’t their biggest danger.

One second the Nihil ship was preparing to fire, and the next it was obliterated. The sky-island had changed direction, slicing up where moments before it was tumbling down, soaring through the air like a discus thrown by a giant.

I’d recommend guessing a fall distance (such as the sky island’s own height), calculate the change in GPE, and then multiply that by 2 (since he counteracted the falling island’s KE, and then reversed it by lifting it back up).

 

[Drite77]

I think the dome suggestion is fine, perhaps just the size of a mountain instead. It is true what Dalesan said, we can't exactly know how far the Island fell, but that's shouldn't discredit it from the assumptions taken. As long as the assumptions taken are not absurd, I'm fine with it

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

I think GPE works since the island in question was damaged and falling to the ground before being lifted back up by Elzar:

It continued out into the bay, carving a looping arc through the Nihil armada to splash spectacularly into the lake, but Indeera wasn’t looking, she was shouting an order in the confines of her cockpit, the Sneevel hugging the nose of her craft.

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

we can't exactly know how far the Island fell, but that's shouldn't discredit it from the assumptions taken. As long as the assumptions taken are not absurd, I'm fine with it

Does that make the velocities alright to use?

 

[Drite77]

Does that make the velocities alright to use?

I've said before I don't want to deal with Star Wars and that is still a thing, I just said that the assumption for GPE that you offered seemed fine for the feat

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

I've said before I don't want to deal with Star Wars and that is still a thing

What can we do since Dal does not want to help out?

I just said that the assumption for GPE that you offered seemed fine for the feat

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Hagane_no_Saiyajin/Elzar_Mann_throws_a_sky-island#GPE