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How fast is xeno goku

Super Saiyan's multiplier is used as 40x at the very least, but does it count for the speed?

If so, then just stacking KKx100 with SS form he'd be 1.6 Quintillions times FTL, but these numbers are out of my league so I'm probably wrong.
 
Is he slower than Whis tho?

Plus, DBH/X Whis might be as similar to canon Whis as Goku CC is to canon Goku.
 
If we can use the canon to say that Goku has his GT feat (which imo is bs but I'll just whine about that and not do anything for it), then Super, which is totally canon, is considered as well.

Also yes, he's slower than Whis. Everyone who's not Zeno and GP is slower than Whis. Angels are still the god tiers above the likes of Mechikabura and the like.
 
The real cal howard said:
Slower than Whis whose canonical peak is ~ 300 quadrillion c.

Which is why multipliers are bs.
Combat speed and flight speed are different, especially in Dragon Ball.
 
Oh not that bullshit argument again.

Tell me a single combat speed feat in all of DB, canon or otherwise, that's even FTL.
 
Lord Ace900 said:
Does Xeno Goku original follow GT? I'm confused on when he is from
He's not from GT, otherwise he wouldn't have met GT versions of the characters as being from other timelines. He's from this Xeno timeline that appears similar to Xenoverse and Online yet while being different to them.
 
The real cal howard said:
Oh not that bullshit argument again.

Tell me a single combat speed feat in all of DB, canon or otherwise, that's even FTL.
What? Goku took more than a day to cross snake way despite being relativistic so it's pretty clear that they're different. However I still think it's only valid to use Kaio-Ken since it actually boosts all statistics.
 
Lord Ace900 said:
Does Xeno Goku original follow GT? I'm confused on when he is from
Not completely, but he at least has been through something similar. We don't have a complete picture of the Xeno timeline, but we know that Gohan had fought Garlic Jr., and Goku had met Turles, Tapion and the Shadow Dragons.
 
What? Goku took more than a day to cross snake way despite being relativistic so it's pretty clear that they're different. However I still think it's only valid to use Kaio-Ken since it actually boosts all statistics.

In hindsight, didn't mean to be so aggressive so sorry about that (but knowing me I'll likely do it again so apologies).

That said, people really like to use that to differentiate the two. And yes. I'm not denying that combat speed is almost always equal to or greater than combat speed. For most series, let alone DB. But doesn't change the fact that the best feats in the series come Super come from travel, and that the Snake Way feat is a low end.
 
Yeah true, it's pretty common to have variable flying speeds though. Like Goku being faster than Ginyu despite being weaker than Ginyu, Goku and Vegeta being able to fly away from Broly despite being ants compared to him, etc.

Dragon Ball should really cut down on the multipliers and stick to base and ssj.
 
Zamasu Chan said:
Yeah true, it's pretty common to have variable flying speeds though. Like Goku being faster than Ginyu despite being weaker than Ginyu, Goku and Vegeta being able to fly away from Broly despite being ants compared to him, etc.
Dragon Ball should really cut down on the multipliers and stick to base and ssj. </div>
Ginyu was weaker than Goku
 
The Kaio-Ken grants a boost but the actual degree of that boost is normally waaaaay beyond what the multiplier suggests. Kaio-Ken x10 grants a much larger boost than times 10. Just go by feats instead of multipliers.
 
I mean fiction will be fiction. Dragon Ball doesn't really care about how big the numbers are. The only thing it thinks matters is the fact that one opponent is stronger than the other.
 
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