Honkai: Star Rail Discussion Thread

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Personally I think FireNon is a temporary power Irontomb can't access and his destruction comes from the chain effect of targeting the Path of Erudition. I still think that Irontomb is somewhere below FireNon though and would massively overpower both normal Khaslana and Zephyro.

FireNon’s power doesnt apply to Incomplete Irontomb’s base but its what he uses for Self Coronation

 

[Doggo]

Incomplete Irontomb explicitly only scales to Khaslana when going for self coronation

Incomplete IT's physicals are scaled to Zephy according to the justificstions of the profiles. (Im talking about normal Khaslana btw not Firenon)

I still think that Irontomb is somewhere below FireNon though and would massively overpower both normal Khaslana and Zephyro.

Complete or Incomplete IT? If its the latter then uh...we can 4v1 Zephy

 

[PlungingThroughTime]

FireNon’s power doesnt apply to Incomplete Irontomb’s base but its what he uses for Self Coronation

Does it say anywhere that he burns up the coreflames or anything like that for his Self Coronation? I thought the Self Coronation was him effecting Nous calculation to the Destruction as the result.

Complete or Incomplete IT? If its the latter then uh...we can 4v1 Zephy

Even incomplete tbh, before he was a Lord Ravager his destruction was on par with a Lord Ravager.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Does it say anywhere that he burns up the coreflames or anything like that for his Self Coronation? I thought the Self Coronation was him effecting Nous calculation to the Destruction as the result.

He spikes up massively out of nowhere in path energy when going for self coronation from draining Khaslana’s power in order to accomplish the feats he did in that fight

 

[PlungingThroughTime]

He spikes up massively out of nowhere in path energy when going for self coronation from draining Khaslana’s power in order to accomplish the feats he did in that fight

Wasn't it stated that Khaslana was already integrated into Irontomb before the fight even began? (Or when you actually defeat Khaslana?)

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Incomplete IT's physicals are scaled to Zephy according to the justificstions of the profiles. (Im talking about normal Khaslana btw not Firenon)



Complete or Incomplete IT? If its the latter then uh...we can 4v1 Zephy

I mean there’s always another route you can go

You can chalk up the chrysos heirs/express ability to face on Irontomb purely because of them being amped by the core flames and that if you believe they lost their core flames post amphoreus then that they go back to cornerstone level.

Which would explain why they got their ass kicked by Zephyro in that one route

 

[PlungingThroughTime]

I mean there’s always another route you can go

You can chalk up the chrysos heirs/express ability to face on Irontomb purely because of them being amped by the core flames and that if you believe they lost their core flames post amphoreus then that they go back to cornerstone level.

Which would explain why they got their ass kicked by Zephyro in that one route

Why not believe that they're just pretty strong and that there's also like 33M of them stacking their power?

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Wasn't it stated that Khaslana was already integrated into Irontomb before the fight even began? (Or when you actually defeat Khaslana?)

Yeah but it’s not like Irontomb or Khaslana uses the core flames off rip. (Which is why I changed his justifications from being powered by 400 million core flames to only being powered by 12 normally when he transforms)

 

[Doggo]

I mean there’s always another route you can go

You can chalk up the chrysos heirs/express ability to face on Irontomb purely because of them being amped by the core flames and that if you believe they lost their core flames post amphoreus then that they go back to cornerstone level.

Which would explain why they got their ass kicked by Zephyro in that one route

Big issue tho. Zephy>Pienon who is amped by 12 coreflames. For us to fight a Zephy level threat while being amped by 1 coreflame is so silly.

Im starting to think Cyrene carried that fight agianst incomplete It due to having 12 coreflames in her. Or Irontomb wasnt going all out due to being busy reiterating itself (so it one-shotting us with the spear is it going all out once its done reiterating)

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Big issue tho. Zephy>Pienon who is amped by 12 coreflames. For us to fight a Zephy level threat while being amped by 1 coreflame is so silly.

Im starting to think Cyrene carried that fight agianst incomplete It due to having 12 coreflames in her. Or Irontomb wasnt going all out due to being busy reiterating itself (so it one-shotting us with the spear is it going all out once its done reiterating)

Is Cyrene even powered by all 12 like with Khaslana’s usage or does she just use it for a specific attack. I don’t remember.

Also idk how to portray the fight as Cyrene carrying if none of them are portrayed as either getting cooked or them being portrayed as dead weight. Like imagine Cyrene is the one solely focusing on doing damage to Irontomb while being the one to also solely defend and protect every other alleged dead weight on the battlefield from being one shotted. Sounds really impractical for something that wasn’t portrayed.

Idk how I feel about the iron tomb holding back meta either because he uses all of his attacks and his more combative stance in phase 2.

Also (when) Irontomb’s Multi galactic LS calc gets accepted, there’s this one attack in game where he smashes his opponents into mashed potatoes. Like imagine the guy with Multi Galactic LS doing this to the alleged Class G characters and they somehow miraculously survive being crushed.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Also how many Honkai LS calcs do we have that needs to be accepted

 

[PlungingThroughTime]

Also how many Honkai LS calcs do we have that needs to be accepted

Too many lol.

 

[Furina003]

Only in Genshin's leaf world.

Haha, “GENSHIN LEAF.”
Bro forgot that the “Genshin leaf” is the size of a universe did you forget why Aeons can be scaled to 2-A? Because they’re carried by that universe-sized Genshin leaf LOL

Even I personally don’t agree that Genshin is “JUST a leaf.”

I can give you tons of scans stating that the Genshin universe is infinite, which means the HSR universe shouldn’t be able to contain it, since both are infinite in size.

So there are only two possibilities:
1. The HSR and Genshin universes are separate.
2. HSR and Genshin exist within the same universe.

Yeah, from these two possibilities, it would still downgrade the Aeons to Low 2-C, because there’s no proof that Aeons can affect a physical realm with a 2-A scale

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Shigaraki solos that bush

 

[Mbpoops]

Haha, “GENSHIN LEAF.”
Bro forgot that the “Genshin leaf” is the size of a universe did you forget why Aeons can be scaled to 2-A? Because they’re carried by that universe-sized Genshin leaf LOL

Even I personally don’t agree that Genshin is “JUST a leaf.”

I can give you tons of scans stating that the Genshin universe is infinite, which means the HSR universe shouldn’t be able to contain it, since both are infinite in size.

So there are only two possibilities:
1. The HSR and Genshin universes are separate.
2. HSR and Genshin exist within the same universe.

Yeah, from these two possibilities, it would still downgrade the Aeons to Low 2-C, because there’s no proof that Aeons can affect a physical realm with a 2-A scale

Yap

 

[Furina003]

Shigaraki solos that bush

Istaroth easy win

 

[PlungingThroughTime]

Haha, “GENSHIN LEAF.”
Bro forgot that the “Genshin leaf” is the size of a universe did you forget why Aeons can be scaled to 2-A? Because they’re carried by that universe-sized Genshin leaf LOL

Even I personally don’t agree that Genshin is “JUST a leaf.”

I can give you tons of scans stating that the Genshin universe is infinite, which means the HSR universe shouldn’t be able to contain it, since both are infinite in size.

So there are only two possibilities:
1. The HSR and Genshin universes are separate.
2. HSR and Genshin exist within the same universe.

Yeah, from these two possibilities, it would still downgrade the Aeons to Low 2-C, because there’s no proof that Aeons can affect a physical realm with a 2-A scale

The Tree is transfinite in terms of size, larger than all infinities. It can contain infinities.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Istaroth easy win

I have statements that calls Shigaraki omnipotent and transcendent and he scales above all might who one shotted Thanos

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Didn't even make that last shit up either

 

[PedjaTarzan]

Haha, “GENSHIN LEAF.”
Bro forgot that the “Genshin leaf” is the size of a universe did you forget why Aeons can be scaled to 2-A? Because they’re carried by that universe-sized Genshin leaf LOL

Even I personally don’t agree that Genshin is “JUST a leaf.”

I can give you tons of scans stating that the Genshin universe is infinite, which means the HSR universe shouldn’t be able to contain it, since both are infinite in size.

So there are only two possibilities:
1. The HSR and Genshin universes are separate.
2. HSR and Genshin exist within the same universe.

Yeah, from these two possibilities, it would still downgrade the Aeons to Low 2-C, because there’s no proof that Aeons can affect a physical realm with a 2-A scale

this is genuinely AI generated

 

[Furina003]

The Tree is transfinite in terms of size, larger than all infinities. It can contain infinities.

hsr universe is only said to be infinite

New shoots grow, withered leaves fall, and endless births and deaths occur among the infinite universe... Describing the universe's structure as a "tree" may be an attitude that views the Imaginary Tree as a life form.

 

[Mbpoops]

hsr universe is only said to be infinite

Ok..? This doesnt address what he said

 

[Mbpoops]

 

[Mbpoops]

Aha once said, the world works however I reckon it does. Don't let those phonies posing as scientists pull the wool over your eyes. They go on about gravity running the show. But I say if you just quit thinkin' about fallin', you ain't gonna fall. See? I'm floatin' just fine. They say a Perpetual Engine can't exist, but my UFO cobbled together from wood scraps and old tin is flying right here, ain't it? They say what I do isn't real science, but mere distortions of reality. But if you ask me, they're all spouting nonsense.
I'm gonna smash their garbage theories to bits and spread the truth so y'all know that time is a substance, coldness and heat are both particles. Every electron in the universe is one and the same, and matter can be generated out of thin air.
Folks, don't you dare blink, 'cause I'm about to contemplate the very framework that runs this universe. - self-contemplating Scholar

is aha about to put HooH on fraud watch..?

 

[Mbpoops]

How pitiful the universe is, that people die without dignity, and then vanish into nothingness. You once sang in the gondola, reciting decayed verses from a fallen realm, where people dreamed of an afterlife. In that world, suffering would be rewarded and sins would be tormented. Brief lives would give way to an endless existence, and the world would know no more farewells.
A future of emptiness is the chronic affliction of the universe. You sang the song of death and invited the shadows of yesteryear to dance: lost children and departed lovers. Cries echoed through Ahatopia while tears gathered into rivers. You ascended to the moon and accepted a fleeting portion of that deity's authority.
You said, "There should be another realm beyond death." And then, the universe made your words come true. - Soul returner

even though this is just talking about the phantasmoon, i cant help but feel like this is a hi3 reference

 

[Mbpoops]

Could we get H3A himeko from graphia’s painting?

 

[Mbpoops]

Hold up there, friend. Your destructive impulses have reached the system cap. Never before has a Supplicant walked so far down the Path of Destruction. Keep this up, even the legendary demon lord from beyond might feel humbled, though it once took eight Supplicants working together just to face him. Not that I can stop you, of course. So before you wander down that road of no return, let us chat about the story of that great villain?
Every hero story needs a cunning and wicked devil, right? Long, long ago, there was someone who commanded monsters and nearly reduced Ahatopia to cinders. In his hands, civilizations were like marbles in a pinball machine. One flick of his finger, they would tumble into abyss, leaving wails in their wake and not a single smile in sight. But just like every fairy tale, a hero came along and shattered his schemes. So...
Wanna play a round? - Demon lord from beyond

ASAT UPSCALE?????

GRAPHIA UPSCALE??

 

[Mbpoops]

Ladies and gentlemen, and to the security officers here to apprehend me, I regret to inform you that I have played a little word game with you all. I have stolen the personal pronouns from your minds and replaced them with my favorite fruits. Unlike that chaos in Ternary City, this trick is more elegant and far more entertaining. It is quite simple:
"Apple" = "You"
"Watermelon" = "I"
Looking at the colleagues before you who have turned into "Apples," I'm sure "Apple" are beginning to understand the rules of "Watermelons." Truth be told, I was standing right in front of "Apple" just now, but in the eyes of "Apple," I'm just another "Apple" too. Oh well, what can I say? "Watermelon" am a bit of a riddler after all. Oh, and one more thing: Do not eat any fruit until the Phantasmoon Games are over. - apples! apples!

 

[Mbpoops]

actually nvm, these arent in the databank so they're unuseable!

 

[Mbpoops]

After his name was called, a visible aura of dejection began radiating from SupplicantCaspar. Individuals exposed to this dejection experienced unstable emotions. Close monitoring of Caspar's movements is deemed necessary.
2:45 PM, Caspar entered the subway station, attempting to board the train. All trains, including the Bullet Wyrm express, ceased operations due to loss of motivation.
2:50 PM, Caspar returned to the surface and began traveling on foot. Shops along the route started closing one after another.
2:55 PM, Caspar suspected to be a Self-Annihilator.
3:20 PM, Caspar arrived at Duomension CityCentral Plaza. The crowd collectively lay down and gave up.
3:45 PM, Caspar has been taken into custody by the Security Bureau, but the number of individuals affected by the dejection continues to rise. Suspected to possess memetic properties.
4:15 PM, I've decided to quit. Life is meaningless anyway, so why should I be stuck in this boring job. - hero of dejection

Caspar aura > acheron

 

[Le'garde273]

The reference on the justification is literally that one quest not the Sacred Sakura LOL

Then just change the justification instead using wrong premise, the sacred sakura event still create different timelines which later converge into one

 

[Mbpoops]

Then just change the justification instead using wrong premise, the sacred sakura event still create different timelines which later converge into one

N-nous upscale!?!?

 

[Le'garde273]

N-nous upscale!?!?

Nous is fraud, they didn't deserve any upgrade!!

 

[Mbpoops]

Nous is fraud, they didn't deserve any upgrade!!

Real and true

 

[Le'garde273]

Real and true

 

[Mbpoops]

unironically the best summary of how the verse has been recently. god i love you hoyo jesus

 

[Voidnether]

Then just change the justification instead using wrong premise, the sacred sakura event still create different timelines which later converge into one

That still needs a CRT

 

[Voidnether]

actually nvm, these arent in the databank so they're unuseable!

Isn't that quote basically just talking about law of identity in a way

 

[MSahla]

That still needs a CRT

Yeah it will be yours.

I was actually about to add/change the Justification of it now that i have some mood to do it, but now you made that CRT.

 

[Mbpoops]

Isn't that quote basically just talking about law of identity in a way

all of the scans not just that one