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Honkai: Star Rail Discussion Thread

Insert_creative_name_here_12 said:
Again TB is only called S Rank in a dream where basically everthing is perfect. Sunday wasn’t an Aeon. In 3.8 he got close but got nerfed to the level of an Emanator right before the fight.
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Okay now this is just larping about HSR entirely because the dialogue when Trailblazer is stated to be S-Rank isn't even in Penacony; It's on the Astral Express train stated by Welt.

Also everyone knew that if you actually played 3.8, Sunday did become the Second Ena, the only reason we were able to stop him is because we directed people's wish to Preservation instead of Order, we only stopped Sunday from forging a new Path (Path of Conquest), he still became the Second Ena.
 
Voidnether said:
Okay now this is just larping about HSR entirely because the dialogue when Trailblazer is stated to be S-Rank isn't even in Penacony; It's on the Astral Express train stated by Welt.

Also everyone knew that if you actually played 3.8, Sunday did become the Second Ena, the only reason we were able to stop him is because we directed people's wish to Preservation instead of Order, we only stopped Sunday from forging a new Path (Path of Conquest), he still became the Second Ena.
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An event that takes place in the dream. Did you forget that the Sunday made TB dream they beat him, the IPC and Penacony where all buddy buddy then they got on the train an even planned out a whole route and everyone glazef them before Black Swan woke the TB up?

And everyone knows that the story states he got nerfed to the level of an Emanator.
 
Voidnether said:
I mean the thread I made that proposed Pathstriders to just be Low 1-C, Emanators at 1-C (6-D) and Aeons at 1-C (7-D) as a temporary solution is rejected so yeah

When every single villain that was fought in HSR all did Low 1-C feats on their own (Aeon Sunday, Completed Irontomb), everyone fr scales to this, if there's any downgrade in the end it'll make everyone Tier 2 anyway

Not to mention, Aeon Sunday, Completed Irontomb, etc is at the higher scale of Low 1-C based on the current chainscaling anyway.
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Isn't emanator only in tier 3, even now I still doubt their tier 1 😂
 
Insert_creative_name_here_12 said:
Again TB is only called S Rank in a dream where basically everthing is perfect. Sunday wasn’t an Aeon. In 3.8 he got close but got nerfed to the level of an Emanator right before the fight.
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This isn't even a proper debunk against the statement. Actually, HI3 characters are the ones benefitting from this statement, not HSR characters.
 
Insert_creative_name_here_12 said:
An event that takes place in the dream. Did you forget that the Sunday made TB dream they beat him, the IPC and Penacony where all buddy buddy then they got on the train an even planned out a whole route and everyone glazef them before Black Swan woke the TB up?

And everyone knows that the story states he got nerfed to the level of an Emanator.
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The same dream that's stated to have the same laws of physics as the real world? Why would even we disqualify feats that happened in a dream? You know this doesn't make sense when 99% of Penacony, well happened in the Dreamscape, this is not an argument.

Nowhere was it stated in 3.8 he got nerfed to the level of an Emanator sorry to say.
 
Furina003 said:
Isn't emanator only in tier 3, even now I still doubt their tier 1 😂
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Unless you purposely try to ignore Khaslana's feat, Aeon Sunday and Completed Irontomb and the literal statement where Penacony TB is compared to Durandal which scales to L1-C directly, sure
 
Mbpoops said:
Yk this would remove the hde of aeons right
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Which is why you don't start larping about HSR, when there's no HI3 feat that shows them even being universal (Might just say Irontomb wipes out the entire HI3 if this is the scaling you're going)
 
SuperNova55555 said:
Oh yea that feat is just her destroying a europe-sized bubble world with compact dimensions. So js continental
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Actually this is wrong the bubble world is bigger than a continent (i have the scans for this on my pc but im not home) it would still be infinite 4D as the bubble world only contains the stuff in it and the actual dimensions of the bubble are infinite (aside from the compact ones ofc) but she would be low 2-C which i had planned on nuking later
 
Voidnether said:
Which is why you don't start larping about HSR, when there's no HI3 feat that shows them even being universal (Might just say Irontomb wipes out the entire HI3 if this is the scaling you're going)
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Then we can just say irontomb only destroyed the hsr universe and not the entire tree lets play that game
 
Mbpoops said:
Actually this is wrong the bubble world is bigger than a continent (i have the scans for this on my pc but im not home) it would still be infinite 4D as the bubble world only contains the stuff in it and the actual dimensions of the bubble are infinite (aside from the compact ones ofc) but she would be low 2-C which i had planned on nuking later
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Bubble worlds are explicitly smaller than actual universes. If they were it would make very little sense since they are juxtaposed to Leaf Worlds… who are also explicitly smaller than actual universes.
 
Mbpoops said:
Then we can just say irontomb only destroyed the hsr universe and not the entire tree lets play that game
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Oh yeah the same HSR universe that was actually stated to be infinite in size in relations to HI3 universe which is just solar system sized

Pick your poison
 
SuperNova55555 said:
Bubble worlds are explicitly smaller than actual universes. If they were it would make very little sense since they are juxtaposed to Leaf Worlds… who are also explicitly smaller than actual universes.
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Bubble universes can get up to the size of an actual universe this is stated by schrodinger
 
Voidnether said:
The same dream that's stated to have the same laws of physics as the real world? Why would even we disqualify feats that happened in a dream? You know this doesn't make sense when 99% of Penacony, well happened in the Dreamscape, this is not an argument.

Nowhere was it stated in 3.8 he got nerfed to the level of an Emanator sorry to say.
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…Sunday’s dream is literally a lie or are you really trying to argue that Jing Yuan actually pulled up?

I am getting very sick of people being confidently wrong
 
SuperNova55555 said:
I mean I’d love to see your proof for Durandal’s world being infinite so I can definitely wait for that
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The bubble itself is infinite cause the 4 infinite axis but whats contained in it is at least solar system sized and durandal absorbed the entire bubble
 
Insert_creative_name_here_12 said:
…Sunday’s dream is literally a lie or are you really trying to argue that Jing Yuan actually pulled up?

I am getting very sick of people being confidently wrong
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1. This doesn't debunk all the statements.
2. When Welt stated Trailblazer is comparable to S-Rank, this never happened on Sunday's dream.
3. We literally have statements, statements that Sunday became the Second Ena, not just a recap so idk how is this even an argument against lol
 
Mbpoops said:
Because they chainscale off the cof (even though the cof is the only singularity so aeons shouldnt scale off this but wtv)
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*The other way around
Aeons are already stated as higher-dimensionals themselves compared to the cosmology, and the cosmology is Infinite 5-D with compactified 7-D which still would warrant 12-D HDE anyway.
 
SuperNova55555 said:
Aeons are stated to be higher-dimensional themselves so nah.
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actually just being said to be a higher dimension doesn't guarantee them getting HDE 😁
Additionally, usages of “Higher Dimension” should be treated with scrutiny, as “Dimension” is often times used to refer to places, and not directions in space, and as such the term can easily be used in the same sense as "Higher Realm/Plane" and similar verbiage. Context should be used to determine whether it truly refers to increased dimensionality.
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Voidnether said:
*The other way around
Aeons are already stated as higher-dimensionals themselves compared to the cosmology,
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Compared to the hsr universe (the 4D universe) when the CoF (which came before aeons according to game release dates) already transcended any known dimension so idk what you mean by ither way around
Voidnether said:
and the cosmology is Infinite 5-D with compactified 7-D which still would warrant 12-D HDE anyway.
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Mbpoops said:
Compared to the hsr universe (the 4D universe) when the CoF (which came before aeons according to game release dates) already transcended any known dimension so idk what you mean by ither way around
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HSR's universe is 5-D with 7 of them being compactified currently but sure take your poison this time and we'll see which one is which
 
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