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Ngl the og calc feels inflated based on a few assumptions that I feel should not be made, so I'm more comfortable with the version that Furudo and avengershows are proposing
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Honkai: Star Rail Discussion Thread
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Im staying neutral on this
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I mean, it definitely seems extremely high.
High 5-A with solar mass, or 3-C with thermodynamics. Even if Honkai did use evidence to support proper thermodynamics, that's such a huge leap in tier.
Bit off topic, but that makes me wonder what tier TON-618 would be with thermodynamics. I mean, it's already decently high into (4-A?) Would it be quite high into 3-B with thermodynamics if Kebin's black hole is already 3-C?
I mean, TON-618 is massive (radius of 1,300 AU, or diameter of 2,600 AU), and apparently it's not even the largest black hole we discovered now
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And also... whether or not that value would exceed the theoretical mass-energy of the universe (which is also 3-B), which would likely break physics if something in a system has more energy than the amount of energy in the entire system itself.
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Same with me
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You do realise it is further away.
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According to his calcs:
S = (13.2e+40)^2(4π)(6.674e-11)/(6.626e-34)(2.9979e+8) = 6.611647e+114 J/K
T = (6.626e-34)(2.9979e+8)^3/(8π)(1.380649e-23)(6.674e-11)(13.2e+40) = 0.08639854215 K
E = 0.08639854215 * 6.611647e+114 = 5.712367e+113 Joules
Which is completely nonsensical
Not by a lot. The difference in size is extremely minimal
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And… where did this come from.
Ehhh… nothing defers the postulation that black holes can’t explode.
And what assumptions are you talking about?
Nonsensical? No, not at all. Also, that temperature magnitude of yours is off and should be far lower than 0.086 K.
By the exterior…
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Oof. That's magnitudes more than the mass-energy of the universe. Yeah, I'm calling complete bs on that, lol.
And yeah. It would be next to negligible.
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Mass energy of the universe:
Mass energy is equal to E=mc²
So to find the mass energy of the universe, it would be: mass of the universe (1.5e+53 kg) x 299,792,458²
Which is: 1.348e+70 joules of mass energy (3-B)
Exterior...?
I scales the event horizon, which is what the Schwarzschild radius uses and is pretty much the most important part when scaling black holes.
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Well, specifically that's for all the ordinary matter in the universe, though they estimate only 5% of the mass energy of the universe is ordinary matter with the other 95% being dark matter and dark energy. So, just 20x that value to get the entire mass energy.
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I uses the exact same formula you presented. You're free to use Google to calculate yourself. Or a calculator, I don't care.
This sentence means literally nothing. Don't use words you don't know how to use.
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Oh that, lol. Yeah uh, that’s only for the observable Universe and oddly enough you don’t calculate it like that.
Oh, that’s not what I mean. I mean that’s how it looks like visually.
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All the baryonic matter of the observable universe.
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Some of the errors were hard to overlook, I agree that the use of thermodynamics for this instead of standard solar mass is dicey at best, and some assumptions involving the size of the black hole. I am not throwing accusations but a majority of the assumptions are pointed in favor of a higher calculation yield than what I feel should be more correct assumptions, given none of them are remotely conservative.
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That a hell of inflated calc.
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I made this Himeko sandbox.
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Looks very good.
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Got through the story quest, i would say that Duke got a good send out, fighting to the end regardless of odd and stick to his code of never cling to life in the face of death, a true follower of Destruction regardless of his previous actions. Would be really funny if all the Lord Ravager end up scrambling for their lives when their death approach, would make Nanook decision to not even give a glance at Duke pretty stupid if all of his Emanator is just juice up Duke but without the true will to die for the cause (fraudferno no more in that case).
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Ayo, Harmony TB got dat drip.
Can't wait till I can start styling on enemies.
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that looks fire lmfao
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I have a quickly questions
Acheron should have the powers of the 12 Edict Edges plus the Origin Authority? And if yes, she remained with these powers after leaving Izumo? Since the shattered pieces of the 12 swords were used to forge the Origin sword that Acheron used against the bearer of the End sword, and despite her sword being broken later on their final battle, the remainents of the sword were used to create her next sword, Naught
Acheron should have the powers of the 12 Edict Edges plus the Origin Authority? And if yes, she remained with these powers after leaving Izumo? Since the shattered pieces of the 12 swords were used to forge the Origin sword that Acheron used against the bearer of the End sword, and despite her sword being broken later on their final battle, the remainents of the sword were used to create her next sword, Naught
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Maybe a "possibly" for elemental manipulation of the swords' respective elements would work.
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Firefly Drip Marketing
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Interesting piece of lore
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Finally! Currently I have 50 pulls, but I think all the way up to the start of 2.2, I will likely have 180 pulls or very close to it, I will be definitely pulling for her since I really need a fire DPS and my Himeko can't really do significantly damage without her Extra Attack and Ultimate, and the main reason is because fell in love with Firefly and the cinnamon bun she is during the 2.0
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Welp nvm about getting Robin, I need Jade 
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me who wants aventurine,robin,boothill,firefly...Welp nvm about getting Robin, I need Jade
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I need to spend Jade to get Jade. Seems like she has biblical snake motifs. Fitting for a loan shark.
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Now my strategy is very simple, skip Robin and Boothill, gather many stellar jades to buy many pulls as possible, and then pull for Firefly, and if I pull my cinnamon bun/Kamen Rider early, I will use the rest to pull for Jade
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