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Homelander vs Ludwig

Homie has like a 2x AP advantage (even more cuz he no sold the chemical plant explosion). The ludwig guy has better LS which could come in handy in close combat.

Heat Vision is a big wincon for Homie though, as it should go through ludwig's heat resistance by a mile if he can only resist normal fire like the profile is stating.
 
Homie has like a 2x AP advantage (even more cuz he no sold the chemical plant explosion). The ludwig guy has better LS which could come in handy in close combat.

Heat Vision is a big wincon for Homie though, as it should go through ludwig's heat resistance by a mile if he can only resist normal fire like the profile is stating.
Ludwig has immortality type 2 and Low-Mid regeneration, so John will have to be pretty thorough with the heat. The horse will also be shooting energy blasts at him and while we don't see him do it during his holy blade phase, he should still be able to jump really high and scale surfaces to catch Homelander in the air.
 
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Yeah but like, Homelander can fly still, that's a pretty massive mobility. I'm not familiar with his strategy but it depends on how likely he is just to ***** out and kite with heat vision.

ALso Ludwig's still a beast before he turns human-ish so that fire weakness is really gonna **** him if he's not careful
 
Yeah but like, Homelander can fly still, that's a pretty massive mobility. I'm not familiar with his strategy but it depends on how likely he is just to ***** out and kite with heat vision.
He'll still have to stay within range of Ludwig's energy blasts because that's also the range of his heat vision.
ALso Ludwig's still a beast before he turns human-ish so that fire weakness is really gonna **** him if he's not careful
He starts in holy blade mode.
 
Ludwig has immortality type 2
Doesn't stop him from getting incapped though.
Low-Mid regeneration, so John will have to be pretty thorough with the heat.
He still can't regen lost limbs and shi.
The horse will also be shooting energy blasts at him
That's kind of a problem for Homie but I think he can just block them with his own heat vision.
he should still be able to jump really high and scale surfaces to catch Homelander in the air.
I'll pretty much say the same thing Naito-desu said.
 
Doesn't stop him from getting incapped though.
He was canonically only incapped after being reduced to just a head.
He still can't regen lost limbs and shi.
He totally can. Beasts have shown to heal from worse.
That's kind of a problem for Homie but I think he can just block them with his own heat vision.
And he's smart enough to do that? They're large individual blasts, not small sustained beams like heat vision.
 
He was canonically only incapped after being reduced to just a head.
Well Homie has enough AP to do that.
He totally can. Beasts have shown to heal from worse.
Oh I thought his regen was mid-low instead of low-mid. These regen categories are confusing af.
And he's smart enough to do that? They're large individual blasts, not small sustained beams like heat vision.
He could block Butcher's heat vision so I don't see why he can't block the energy blasts.
 
He does, but it doesn't make it any easier. He'll have to at least tear him to pieces to incap and destroy the head to kill.
Yeah, sure. I never said it was an easy fight anyway.
The blast has the form of a slash though. He just has to laser the middle part to stop it.

I don't see him completely blocking the bigger slash, but it looks like a really telegraphed attack. Even Homelander can easily dodge that.
 
Immortalities and healing mess Homelander up and John’s never used his flight in any effective manner in a fight. Soldier Boy could fight Homelander for an extended period and John never tried to out-range. Homelander’s skill levels are abysmal. He’s going to get hit by Ludwig’s sword, he’ll, he might even try to tank it the first time around.

Ludwig FRA. We would have to be incredibly generous to Homelander and downplay the hell out of Ludwig in order for Homey to win here.
 
The blast has the form of a slash though. He just has to laser the middle part to stop it.
Uh... How would that work? I doubt they'll get pushed back or disintegrate when hit. Ludwig can also spam them if he wants to.
I don't see him completely blocking the bigger slash, but it looks like a really telegraphed attack. Even Homelander can easily dodge that.
Hunters, who are much more agile than him, struggle to do so. Sure, John can fly, but he hasn't showcased any maneuverability in the air. I doubt he has ever dodged anything while flying.
 
This is Homelander vs Holy Blade Ludwig. Speed is equalized and fight takes place in streets of London.

Manchild Milk Drinker:

Not Beethoven: 2

Incon:
Realistically, Ludwig should be AP stomping here considering the fact he scales relative to weapons like the Kirkhammer and Ludwig's Holy Blade (what is basically a downgraded version of his own sword), both of which are 8-A+. Granted those calcs are a bit sus, but they are accepted and just not listed on his profile.

Anyways, yeah might have to give it to Ludwig. They have pretty comparable attacks, with both of them basically firing off energy beams. Ludwig also just has better LS so Homelander has no chance to really box with him, and better survivability with immortality stuff. I imagine Homelander getting a few shots in, thinking he's killed Ludwig, before coming in and getting bitched or caught off guard considering he's never had to deal with the level of Immortality Ludwig has.
 
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Realistically, Ludwig should realisitcally be AP stomping here considering the fact he scales relative to weapons like the Kirkhammer and what is basically a downgraded version of his own sword, both of which are 8-A+. Granted those calcs are a bit sus, but they are accepted and just not listed on his profile.

Anyways, yeah might have to give it to Ludwig. They have pretty comparable attacks, with both of them basically firing off energy beams. Ludwig also just has better LS so Homelander has no chance to really box with him, and better survivability with immortality stuff. I imagine Homelander getting a few shots in, thinking he's killed Ludwig, before coming in and getting bitched or caught off guard considering he's never had to deal with the level of Immortality Ludwig has.
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I'm pretty sure since we can vote on our own posts so I'm going to vote Ludwig myself and end this
 
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