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Hit vs. Superman (Pre-Crisis)

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I want solid prove that time freeze doesn't effect a oppenent that has the ability to time travel. Otherwise it doesnt count IMO.

And IF Supes can blitzed Hit, what can he do?, he tanked universe punches by Goku (3-A) an was still standing. Supes is only multi galatic.

My vote to Hit.
 
Has superman even fight like this before? blitz ppl immediately?

lot of ppl like to mention this sort of arfgument in many fight, but truth is it almost never is in character for anyone to do that

if hit allowed to do even 1 thing in fight he stop time and kill superman. since for him it actually in character to kill people immediately.
 
Saitamax said:
Has superman even fight like this before? blitz ppl immediately?
lot of ppl like to mention this sort of arfgument in many fight, but truth is it almost never is in character for anyone to do that

if hit allowed to do even 1 thing in fight he stop time and kill superman. since for him it actually in character to kill people immediately.
Standard battle assumptions dictate that even in-character fights the characters have an intent to kill,all superman feats we have seen so far are all basically not intending to kill even the bad guys,there's nothing stopping superman from blitzing if he actually wants to kill someone.
 
and dont forget i think Superman Silver Age is Crazy but Hit the more challanged he gets the stronger 1st he himself gets and his Tokitobashi meaning Superman will help hit achieve very high Timeleap/Stop Seconds and could use it against him.
 
PC superman isn't bound by our time,he has exited our entire physical and temporal dimension before and was shown to be fine and he actually reentered it.
 
SSJ4Hiei said:
Hit blitzes. No power-counjering for supes.
How is Hit blitzing somebody with infinite speed? Check the profiles and feats of Superman, you're misinformed about his potential and abilities
 
okay this comment section is literally biased towards Hit right now. supes can literally break time space barrier while Hit can stop time for like what? 0,5 secs.
 
Faisal Shourov said:
SSJ4Hiei said:
Hit blitzes. No power-counjering for supes.
How is Hit blitzing somebody with infinite speed? Check the profiles and feats of Superman, you're misinformed about his potential and abilities
> infinite speed

>needs plenty time for it

>travel only


also, we shud wait for 2 weeks for this untill we get full info on hit

any decision we make now may need to be repealed in the near future
 
Pre-Crisis Superman is too inconsistent to be used in battles, he is MFTL+ in travel speed but combat speed I don't think he is faster than Hit.

Hit has my vote, and tomorrow we will see more feats for Hit as he will show his true power.
 
"needs plenty of time for it"

For what? "Bursting the bonds of infinity?" As if Supes needs to go that even that fast to blitz Hit. This guy regularly breaks the time barrier with minimal effort and has feats in the tens of septillions of times FTL as a kid

"travel only"

Combat Speed Fallacy
 
Metabro said:
"needs plenty of time for it"
For what? "Bursting the bonds of infinity?" As if Supes needs to go that even that fast to blitz Hit. This guy regularly breaks the time barrier with minimal effort and has feats in the tens of septillions of times FTL as a kid

"travel only"

Combat Speed Fallacy
superman needs a lot of aaceleration for the infinity travel speed apparently

also, i dont recall him combating with such a speed
 
Superman has pretty fast acceleration,like here

supes is calced far higher,but from the picture we can infer that he can reach a speed of at the very least billions of times FTL and possibly trillions in just a few seconds and this is just supes playing.
 
When has Hit demonstrated MFTL+ Combat speed in DB Super? All his stats come from scaling from Goku, who in turn is scaled from Beerus. Beerus himself has unknown value of MFTL+ combat speed (he surely doesn't fight at 120x billion FTL). It can go both ways. Superman has much more feats honestly
 
To be fair, there are several characters who we could say the same for having things in current media (the Marvel Cinematic Universe, Kirby with his new game, Fox with his new game, Link with his new game, Sora with his new game, any game with DLC, etc...)
 
...don't remind me lol (I have a strong aversion to overrated things, and it's taking all my effort to keep DB in my personal black. I'm legit doing everything to still like it, and succeeding). Anyway, the thing is, these threads are going to be created regardless for that reason.
 
Faisal Shourov said:
When has Hit demonstrated MFTL+ Combat speed in DB Super? All his stats come from scaling from Goku, who in turn is scaled from Beerus. Beerus himself has unknown value of MFTL+ combat speed (he surely doesn't fight at 120x billion FTL). It can go both ways. Superman has much more feats honestly
90% of all characters on this site are scaled from somebody else.
 
Pannaliciour said:
Faisal Shourov said:
When has Hit demonstrated MFTL+ Combat speed in DB Super? All his stats come from scaling from Goku, who in turn is scaled from Beerus. Beerus himself has unknown value of MFTL+ combat speed (he surely doesn't fight at 120x billion FTL). It can go both ways. Superman has much more feats honestly
90% of all characters on this site are scaled from somebody else.
You do realize that you are talking to the guy who has calced the DB feats on this site?
 
Unfortunately Hit wasn't able to show his full power, as he wasn't allowed to kill in the tournament. But it does confirm Hit(100%)>SSJGSSKKx10.

Hit wins imo. He is the better martial artist and has a bunch of assasination techniques in his arsenal. And he hurt a universal Goku surpressed.
 
i think hit looses since precrisis supes can already break the time barrier,unless if hit uses that mysterious attack he used on frost he might have a chance with it he could just drain superman out of his energy
 
Well i couldn't find episode 40,but upto 39 goku(SSBK10) didn't seem to have any trouble tagging HIT,which supes also shouldn't have since he's consdierably faster,episode 40 sounds interesting tho.
 
HIT can freeze time and easily deliver 30+ blows and even if pre crises superman punch him first, HIT can survive as he has taken hits from 3A Goku.Time leap is only shown to be broken by powerlevels which is measure of ki which results in increase in power/speed/durability ect and also HIT has now improved version of tokitobashi which not even 3A goku can break.
 
Well Pre-crisis superman is a major smartass, he could probaly defeat Hit ( or most Dbs characters with prep). But hit is supreme in both tier and hax so he wins a casual encounter.
 
The funny thing is even if pre-crises comes with prep to break hit's timeleap then hit will improve his time leap to become resistant to the thing which breaks his time leap and without prep supes don't even know what technique hit is using.
 
ShutUp123 said:
The funny thing is even if pre-crises comes with prep to break hit's timeleap then hit will improve his time leap to become resistant to the thing which breaks his time leap and without prep supes don't even know what technique hit is using.
Phantom Zone projector m8
 
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