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High 6-C Obito w/o the aide of the Biju.

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So, Obito is listed as High 6-C+ with the Biju, but this shouldn't be the case. Obito should be High 6-C on his own, which is further backed by the fact he was able to Control 7 of the Biju witgh his own power.

The feat in general that proves this is here:

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Obito creates a Barrier that not only Gyuuki couldn't break physically, but also greatly harmed him. It also looks to be a casual feat for him. Thus, I believe War arc Obito should be At Least High 6-C+ via this feat with Ninjutsu only.


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Controlling is not related to power in Naruto and it would make Kakashi High 6-C+ and everyone comparable to him, so no. What happened that Obito used his High 6-C+ Biju Powers [If not outlier] to make said barrier, which is High 6-C+ since more attacks from Gyuki and Kurama can break it, so no at least either.
 
Dark649 said:
It would make Kakashi High 6-C+ and everyone comparable to him, so no. What happened that Obito used his High 6-C+ Biju Powers to make said barrier, which is High 6-C+ since more attacks from Gyuki and Kurama can break it, so no at least either.
Sorry, Dark, but that's not quite True at all:

  • Physically, Obito is still comparable to the likes of Kakashi and such. Kakashi at no point matched Obito Jutsu for Jutsu, so I see no reason for Kakashi and Others to scale.
  • The barrier isn't confirmed to be amped by the Biju Chakra, that in and of itself is verafiable false. Not implied, stated, portrayed, anything. It's an Uchiha ability for starters, not even a rinnegan ability.
  • Naruto and KB with Charged Biju Bombs broke the barrier. That Biju Bomb scaling from BM Naruto alone is Low 6-B, so, it would break an at Least High 6-C+ barrier regardless.
 
- This is Obito with just a Rinnegan he should be not superior to Nagato or Edo Madara. He admitted that he cannot handle two Rinnegans while Nagato could, which means that he cannot handle High 6-C power on his own.

- Then it's outlier.

- No need for the at least.
 
Dark649 said:
- This is Obito with just a Rinnegan he should be not superior to Nagato or Edo Madara.
- Then it's outlier.

- No need for the at least.
  • I'm sorry, Nagato and Edo Madara should scale from this (I was refering to Kakashi and Gai), I brought up Nagato in the Revisions, but it was looked over. And Madara is his teacher, not only that, Edo Madara is High 6-A.
  • I doubt it's an outlier. We even scale Madara from being able to over power the biju with his rinnegan (Though Madara has better scaling regardless).
  • Sure, I suppose, but it was a casualy feat.
 
Obito did not used raw power to control the Bijus, just through Hax by the fact they are his Edo Tensei Paths. Obito just made a barrier through hax not phisically so no one gets affected, that's it.
 
Dark649 said:
- This is Obito with just a Rinnegan he should be not superior to Nagato or Edo Madara. He admitted that he cannot handle two Rinnegans while Nagato could, which means that he cannot handle High 6-C power on his own..
Question for you to ponder. If Madara's eyes are 6-B in terms of power with EMS, what makes you think his Rinnegan, which are superior to his EMS, would Regress 2 tiers in power? The only reasonaly outcome is that Nagato, despite having the body to handle 2 Rinnegan, wasn't skilled enough to utilize them at their full power, which is a thing in Naruto.

Nagato's full potential with Both Of Madara's Rinnegan would be 6-B, Possibly Higher. Less if he wasn't skilled enough to use it to it's full potential. On that basis, you cannot scale Obito from Nagato. The jutsu isn't even a dojutsu for starters anyways.
 
Dark649 said:
Obito did not used raw power to control the Bijus, just through Hax by the fact they are his Edo Tensei Paths. Obito just made a barrier through hax not phisically so no one gets affected, that's it.
  • Yes, Obito controlling the Biju were through Eye-Powers alone. This is confirmed. The chains he used on them also are likely the same ones that Madara used which are implied to be Rinnegan generated.
  • Obito's barrier Jutsu isn't Dojutsu
 
@Dark649 - This is Obito with just a Rinnegan he should be not superior to Nagato


Nagato has 6-A calc but but kep siad contradicts the consistently of Country level Juubito, Hashirama not being shit to him, BSM Naruto and Sasuke, and etc.

but now it shouldnt contradicts anything cuz jubito/others is now high 6-A so obito is not superior to Nagato
 
Yeah, now that I think about it, if Obito gets upgraded, we gotta look at the others again.

The fact that Obioto has 1 of Madara's Rinnegan, the same Logic applies to him as with Madara. Obito's max potential with 1 of Madara's Rinnegan would be Baseline Low 6-B. Which is enough to Control the Biju. On top of that, Obito has High 6-C+ feats casually with Ninjutsu.
 
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