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[TheOrangeGuy09]

Okay at best you can downscale his tentacles, which i suppose is something that i personally don't agree with, but whatever i can let slide. But something i will never let slide is scaling Alastor's durability in demon form to a number that was shown to one-shot him. You can't scale someone to somthing they can't actually withstand.

Repeating myself again. He got one-shotted without Demon Form, after his cane was broken (weakened), and with AXE, which scales above the user.

The shield, that you might bring up like Reaper, was not his peak triumph card. After it is broken, he is actually seen maliciously growing his smile as he saw General of Exorcists do it. He wasn’t even slightly shocked, scared, panicking, nor sad (and reminder that Alastor SUCKS at hiding his true emotions, in the series at least). The fact that he has electrified tentacles & his shadow that can actually deal damage to General of Exorcists already proves that the shield is not his best thingy, just a huge range barrier.

There isn't even evidence for his durability scaling in the OP. it's just stated what is wanted without any proof of why he should???

The reasoning is him tanking his electrified tentacles growing out of his spine.

 

[Comiphorous]

Repeating myself again. He got one-shotted without Demon Form, after his cane was broken (weakened), and with AXE, which scales above the user.

How did his cane break again? Oh right, Adam hit it and broke it instantly. The source of Alastor's power breaking in one-hit to something that you're trying to scale him too...?

Interesting choice.

The reasoning is him tanking his electrified tentacles growing out of his spine.

That's him using his powers. He isn't tanking anything. Definitely disagree with the durability scaling. Whole argument feels like grabbing at straws trying to get Alastor into a higher tier.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

How did his cane break again? Oh right, Adam hit it and broke it instantly. The source of Alastor's power breaking in one-hit to something that you're trying to scale him too...?

Interesting choice.

First of all, it isn’t source of his powers, it is an amplifier. Secondly, prove UES for Alastor really quick so you can scale his cane to his power.

That's him using his powers. He isn't tanking anything.

Yeah, and that’s also his body not freaking exploding for a 7-C tentacle growing out of it! It was not even me who invented Al scaling to tentacles in durability via this, it was actually @DaReaperMan.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Quick, play the Pentious explosion in the pilot five times.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Quick, play the Pentious explosion in the pilot five times.

I missed the joke.

 

[Comiphorous]

First of all, it isn’t source of his powers, it is an amplifier. Secondly, prove UES for Alastor really quick so you can scale his cane to his power.

So;

Adam one-shots Base Alastor
His tentacles, which apparently downscale from Adam, get one-shot by him
His demon form durability would scale to the tentacles, but less so because they can easily break his flesh to grow out of him (????)

So what? Alastor would be not only a one-shots below, but would downscale from that one-shot from Adam? Atp why is he even scaling??? Buddy's just carrying several downscaling so he can still be one-shot by Adam in his forms. He never withstands a 7-C attack, and his one feat of harming one is completely overshadowed by the fact the attack that harmed the 7-C is one-shot by said 7-C.

Yeah, and that’s also his body not freaking exploding for a 7-C tentacle growing out of it! It was not even me who invented Al scaling to tentacles in durability via this, it was actually @DaReaperMan.

Don't care who made it up, you're suggesting it. The argument feels like grabbing at straws trying to make him stronger. It's silly and your looking at the display of his powers in a way it really shouldn't be and doesn't even make sense in the first place.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

General one-shots Base Alastor

Axe one-shots weakened Alastor*

His tentacles, which apparently downscale from General, get one-shot by him

By his axe, which scales above the user.

His demon form durability would scale to the tentacles, but less so because they can easily break his flesh to grow out of him (????)

Ask @DaReaperMan how that works, but from what I understand, it's his body not exploding. It basically becomes like another limb of his.

So what? Alastor would be not only a one-shots below, but would downscale from that one-shot from Adam? Atp why is he even scaling??? Buddy's just carrying several downscaling so he can still be one-shot by General in his forms.

It doesn't make sense if you ignore the axe part, yes. But you shouldn't.

Don't care who made it up, you're suggesting it. The argument feels like grabbing at straws trying to make him stronger. It's silly and your looking at the display of his powers in a way it really shouldn't be and doesn't even make sense in the first place.

Nice nothingburger. Give me a proper reason to why Alastor doesn't freaking die to his tentacles or leave it.

 

[DaReaperMan]

By the way if we're really using tentacles as an argument, Adam literally shredded through them and they got blown to pieces by an explosion that's not even 8-A.

There's your argument for Alastor not at all being tier 7 in durability right there.

 

[Comiphorous]

Axe one-shots weakened Alastor*

You just said that the cane was an amplifier of his power, not a source. without the cane that would just be BASE alastor, not weakened. That's how an amplifier would work. That is unless you're lying because if the cane is a source of his power he'd have literally zero reason to scale even with that slight jab at Adam he has.

By his axe, which scales above the user.

According to whom? Adam's profile doesn't say the weapon scales above him. Nor has the weapon even shown to do more than Adam's other attacks. It's just his magic which just scales to his 7-C rating.

Ask @DaReaperMan how that works, but from what I understand, it's his body not exploding. It basically becomes like another limb of his.

If you don't understand the proposal you're bringing up, then remove it.

Nice nothingburger. Give me a proper reason to why Alastor doesn't freaking die to his tentacles or leave it.

Immortality? The fact the limbs don't have explosion manipulation from touching things? Wolverine wouldn't scale to his Low 1-C claws for the same reason despite them cutting through his knuckles when being called out. Not exploding from an attack doesn't mean you scale.

So far you've blatantly contradicted yourself, admitted you don't know what you're even talking about despite being the one proposing it, and not only that baselessly saying things that aren't even shown.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

General literally shredded through them

By his axe, which scales above the user.

and they got blown to pieces by an explosion that's not even 8-A.

It is actually Low 7-C, and they were non-electrified, with Alastor not even taking Pentious seriously. Are we for real now?

You just said that the cane was an amplifier of his power, not a source. without the cane that would just be BASE alastor, not weakened.

...what.
His cane amplifies his powers. Without the cane, he is weakened. With the cane but without Demon Form, that's the base. Quite literally this.

That is unless you're lying because if the cane is a source of his power he'd have literally zero reason to scale even with that slight jab at Adam he has.

Genuine question: did you watch the series or read the OP? Otherwise you'd know that Alastor teleported in less than 20 seconds after losing the cane and regenerated from the wound, and still had his radio voice.
He clearly possesses some abilities, just weaker.

According to whom?

OK, cool, you didn't read OP and just came here to gaslight against Alastor.

Not entertaining this debate against this kind of mentality.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Ah, so your argument for the axe upscaling from everything else Adam does, despite being made of the same shit is: "I want Alastor to be stwong", got it!

...This isn't going to fly.

It is actually Low 7-C, and they were non-electrified, with Alastor not even taking Pentious seriously. Are we for real now?

Took the same amount of damage per tentacle as Pentious did. If not less. Also, if we want to say Alastor not being serious lowers his durability like Dragon Ball, or that electricity around his tentacles which may or may not even have been a thing back in, allow me to remind you: 2019, you'd need proof for that.

 

[Comiphorous]

...what.
His cane amplifies his powers. Without the cane, he is weakened. With the cane but without Demon Form, that's the base. Quite literally this.

So without the cane, he'd just be at a BASE power. He isn't put below his regular without something that was only making his base strength more powerful (because it's an amplifier, not a source to his power)

Genuine question: did you watch the series or read the OP? Otherwise you'd know that Alastor teleported in less than 20 seconds after losing the cane and regenerated from the wound, and still had his radio voice.
He clearly possesses some abilities, just weaker.

Shown where? If he still has access to his regular powerset and regenerated (even though through leaks we know he didn't but we pretend we don't know that!!!) then where is it shown he's been weakened by it? He's only shown weaker when he's still got the wound on his chest, which is obviously not related to his regular power because he just got hit with a holy weapon and is bleeding everywhere.

He isn't depicted any weaker after he regenerates. this whole "he's weaker thing" is complete headcanon.

OK, cool, you didn't read OP and just came here to gaslight against Alastor.

Yeah because what you mentioned about his weapon upscaling from him doesn't make any sense. You're upscaling HIS weapon above HIMSELF based off ANOTHER CHARACTER harming HIM? His weapon is irrelevant to that interaction!

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Ah, so your argument for the axe upscaling from everything else Adam does, despite being made of the same shit is: "I want Alastor to be stwong", got it!

It's how AWs work. AWs one-shot Exorcists who summon them, AW scales one-shot above Charlie who summoned it. Same principle.

...This isn't going to fly.

Well, argue with the show, not me.

Took the same amount of damage per tentacle as Pentious did. If not less.

I'm not sure if you're a calc guy, but the tentacles' surface area would be much greater than Pentious', which is directly proportional to the damage they take.

Also, if we want to say Alastor not being serious lowers his durability like Dragon Ball, or that electricity around his tentacles which may or may not even have been a thing back in, allow me to remind you: 2019, you'd need proof for that.

Him not being serious would imply he doesn't use his magic 100%... he never treats the guy seriously.
Electricity around tentacles may be new, but this is one series and continuity (sadly, because Pilot was written much better). So you can't just throw away this just because "hey it was made in 2019", because I can by the very same logic dismiss the tentacles dying to explosion as "hey it was made in 2019". It's a lose-lose, Reaper.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

So without the cane, he'd just be at a BASE power. He isn't weakened without something that was only making his base strength more powerful (because it's an amplifier)

Shown where? If he still has access to his regular powerset and regenerated (even though through leaks we know he didn't but we pretend we don't know that!!!) then where is it shown he's been weakened by it? He's only shown weaker when he's still got the wound on his chest, which is obviously not related to his regular power because he just got hit with a holy weapon and is bleeding everywhere.

He isn't depicted any weaker after he regenerates. this whole "he's weaker thing" is complete headcanon.

If you didn't read any of my arguments in OP, this doesn't mean it's a headcanon m8! Next time you pull this card I'm just ignoring ya, I see no point of debating you if you don't even read the initial arguments and I have to chew every single moment for you because of that.

Yeah because what you mentioned about his weapon upscaling from him doesn't make any sense. You're upscaling HIS weapon above HIMSELF based off ANOTHER CHARACTER harming HIM? His weapon is irrelevant to that interaction!

It's how AWs work. AWs one-shot Exorcists who summon them, AW scales one-shot above Charlie who summoned it. Same principle.

Also, it's a thing for Charlie: a half-demon, half-that. General is fully that. Make your conclusions.

 

[DaReaperMan]

It's how AWs work. AWs one-shot Exorcists who summon them, AW scales one-shot above Charlie who summoned it. Same principle.

Adam literally got stabbed in the arm by Charlie's angelic pitchfork and it didn't go through him like butter, to the point he could be thrown from said pitchfork. If you don't like that, get rid of Adam's mini-UES... and do I even have to say what that means for Alastor's aspirations of being tier 7?

Not all AWs are created equal, ESPEICALLY when it's made of the literal exact same copy/paste shit his 7-C rating comes from. And we both know Nifty stabbed Adam when he was within an inch of his life, so that's not a factor.

I'm not sure if you're a calc guy, but the tentacles' surface area would be much greater than Pentious', which is directly proportional to the damage they take.

They weren't vaporized, they were blown to nice calamari-looking chunks, with bones in the middle. And remember, several of the tentacles were right next to Pentious when it blew, so same result.

Him not being serious would imply he doesn't use his magic 100%... he never treats the guy seriously.
Electricity around tentacles may be new, but this is one series and continuity (sadly, because Pilot was written much better). So you can't just throw away this just because "hey it was made in 2019", because I can by the very same logic dismiss the tentacles dying to explosion as "hey it was made in 2019". It's a lose-lose, Reaper.

And it's also a lose-lose claiming Alastor's durability drops when he isn't serious, because of exactly what the argument is when it comes to Adam's views during the fight.(Hell if we want to get more into it, Adam would have more reason to **** around because he just One-Punch Man'd Al's barrier)

 

[Comiphorous]

If you didn't read any of my arguments in OP, this doesn't mean it's a headcanon m8! Next time you pull this card I'm just ignoring ya, I see no point of debating you if you don't even read the initial arguments and I have to chew every single moment for you because of that.

You see no point in defending the fact I saw a very blatant flaw in your line of thought? Be my guest to ignore me but it doesn't change that the second your point showed a contradiction you instantly dropped the debate, which doesn't make it look any better.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

General literally got stabbed in the arm by Charlie's angelic pitchfork and it didn't go through him like butter, to the point he could be thrown from said pitchfork. If you don't like that, get rid of General's mini-UES...

UES does not even say "exact same", it says "similar". Also, even if that wasn't the case, it technically still doesn't even contradict anything, as sharper weapons tends to output higher energy than blunt ones, so it can be attributed to that.
Looks to me like you're just trying to buy excuses lol. They literally have the same physiology,

and do I even have to say what that means for Alastor's aspirations of being tier 7?

Enlighten me.

Not all AWs are created equal, ESPEICALLY when it's made of the literal exact same copy/paste shit his 7-C rating comes from. And we both know Nifty stabbed Adam when he was within an inch of his life, so that's not a factor.

The point is that they consistently scale above the user. Vaggie got one-shot by one, Exorcists got one-shotted by their own weapons, Charlie's pitchfork scales one-shot higher.
That's just how verse treats them.

They weren't vaporized, they were blown to nice calamari-looking chunks, with bones in the middle. And remember, several of the tentacles were right next to Pentious when it blew, so same result.

Being right next to him is one thing, another thing is surface area. Read this please.

And it's also a lose-lose claiming Alastor's durability drops when he isn't serious

Not his own durability but his tentacles', as this is just him not using his magic at full capabilities.
Kind of why Omega Flowey's attacks break whenever they hit Frisk despite one-shotting Frisk when OF stops messing around, yk?

just One-Punch Man'd barrier

The shield, that you might bring up like Reaper, was not his peak triumph card. After it is broken, he is actually seen maliciously growing his smile as he saw General of Exorcists do it. He wasn’t even slightly shocked, scared, panicking, nor sad (and reminder that Alastor SUCKS at hiding his true emotions, in the series at least). The fact that he has electrified tentacles & his shadow that can actually deal damage to General of Exorcists already proves that the shield is not his best thingy, just a huge range barrier.

You see no point in defending the fact I saw a very blatant flaw in your line of thought? Be my guest to ignore me but it doesn't change that the second your point showed a contradiction you instantly dropped the debate, which doesn't make it look any better.

Not really, it's you not reading the OP. Very simple. I'll just copy-paste that since I guess you are too lazy to click the "1" button and try to actually go through stuff:

• it is just Alastor's weakness as he got blitzed by him despite having been able to keep up before (he even curses when he sees his cane broken, which wouldn't be the case if it was just a decoration thingy). He also immediately ceased fighting and ran away due to this despite being largely unbothered by the wound.

 

[Comiphorous]

Not really, it's you not reading the OP. Very simple. I'll just copy-paste that since I guess you are too lazy to click the "1" button and try to actually go through stuff:

claiming he was largely unbothered by a wound that Alastor himself says almost killed him "by a hair" is what i mean when talking about the contradicting thing. I read the OP. It's just full of contradictions such as that, specifically when it comes to Alastor. If it's not contradicting something, it's nonsense such as the Adam's weapon upscaling from him.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

claiming he was largely unbothered by a wound that he says almost killed him "by a hair" is what i mean when talking about the contradicting thing. I read the OP. It's just full of contradictions such as that, specifically when it comes to Alastor.

Yet you act like this without saying "I think this part is contradiction"?

Shown where? If he still has access to his regular powerset and regenerated (even though through leaks we know he didn't but we pretend we don't know that!!!) then where is it shown he's been weakened by it? He's only shown weaker when he's still got the wound on his chest, which is obviously not related to his regular power because he just got hit with a h0ly weapon and is bleeding everywhere.

He isn't depicted any weaker after he regenerates. this whole "he's weaker thing" is complete headcanon.

Argue honestly.

As for the argument itself that you just made, him escaping from being killed by a hair contradicts nothing? If he didn't leave, he would just get blitzed and one-shotted without any possibility to fight back. He doesn't say that the attack killed him by a hair, he said that escaped from being killed by a hair.

We even accept him being unbothered by a wound as part of Stamina:

Stamina: Superhuman (Could still walk and sing while suffering a huge gash across his upper body.<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Alastor_(Hazbin_Hotel)#cite_note-S1EP8-9"><span>[</span>9<span>]</span></a>

His song shows him easily walking, singing, etc. Not near-death situation if you ask me.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

(even though through leaks we know he didn't but we pretend we don't know that!!!)

Also just noticed that you mentioned the leaks which is funny since they QUITE LITERALLY confirm he is indeed weakened. See "You're My Pet" song and especially what was right before it, and then answer me why Alastor makes such a big deal out of Rosie not fixing his cane. Decoration?

 

[DaReaperMan]

UES does not even say "exact same", it says "similar". Also, even if that wasn't the case, it technically still doesn't even contradict anything, as sharper weapons tends to output higher energy than blunt ones, so it can be attributed to that.

Which is also why Adam no-sells the tentacle attacks without making a sound. Either bring proof Adam's weapon scales above him, or don't try to use the tentacles as scaling.

His shadows can be At most 7-C. You will make his tentacles tier 7 over my dead body for a variety of reasons.

Looks to me like you're just trying to buy excuses lol. They literally have the same physiology,

With how many excuses you make with Alastor's scaling, I'm not dignifying this with a proper response. Seriously.

Enlighten me.

8-B, 7-C with beams Adam.

The point is that they consistently scale above the user. Vaggie got one-shot by one, Exorcists got one-shotted by called.

Now prove those weapons are made directly from the same stuff they blast fools with. Or that they even make them themselves.

wn weapons, Charlie's pitchfork scales one-shot higher.
That's just how verse treats them.

And the verse treats Alastor like a fraud who couldn't keep his end of a deal, your point?

Being right next to him is one thing, another thing is surface area. Read this please.

And another thing is how they were destroyed, not chunks of gore, but pieces. Also, there were several much further away. I invite you to go get it calced.

...Not even mentioning it being Low 7-C, and near baseline at that, means that even giving the tentacles the most grace humanly possible, they ain't tier 7.

Not his own durability but his tentacles', as this is just him not using his magic at full capabilities.

You're trying to scale Alastor's tentacles to Alastor's durability, he could be the most casual man on the planet and they'd still be comparable to his own dura, two wrongs do not make a right, so this would automatically lead into the 5 page circular argument of Adam being casual vs not being casual with Al for the billionth time.

 

[Comiphorous]

Yet you act like this without saying "I think this part is contradiction"?

I'm being pretty direct about what's being a contradiction. You just don't like when i say it.

As for the argument itself that you just made, him escaping from being killed by a hair contradicts nothing? If he didn't leave, he would just get blitzed and one-shotted without any possibility to fight back. He doesn't say that the attack killed him by a hair, he said that escaped from being killed by a hair.

We even accept him being unbothered by a wound as part of Stamina:


His song shows him easily walking, singing, etc. Not near-death situation if you ask me.

It's a CRT, the place we go to change what's on the profile. What it says doesn't really matter compared to what ACTUALLY happens in the show. In the show, he's depicted stumbling away holding his chest tightly as blood leaks everywhere. Not exactly "unbothered" if you ask me, especially when he says he nearly died from the fight where he only sustained a single hit.

It honestly should be changed he can endure the hit, not that he's unbothered by it.

Also just noticed that you mentioned the leaks which is funny since they QUITE LITERALLY confirm he is indeed weakened. See "You're My Pet" song and especially what was right before it, and then answer me why Alastor makes such a big deal out of Rosie not fixing his cane. Decoration?

They're leaks. they aren't released yet, so I pretend i don't know that will be happening later this month as a courtesy. When season 2 comes out i'll gladly let you use the stuff there, but until then i see no evil. Once season 2 releases though, I agree you can say he's depowered and he should be separated into two keys for season 1 and season 2.

 

[Mythic381]

claiming he was largely unbothered by a wound that Alastor himself says almost killed him "by a hair" is what i mean when talking about the contradicting thing. I read the OP. It's just full of contradictions such as that, specifically when it comes to Alastor. If it's not contradicting something, it's nonsense such as the Adam's weapon upscaling from him.

Could just be implying the fact if it hit a vital point, sliced him, or if he didn't escape in time, he would've been killed.

 

[Mythic381]

Also just noticed that you mentioned the leaks which is funny since they QUITE LITERALLY confirm he is indeed weakened. See "You're My Pet" song and especially what was right before it, and then answer me why Alastor makes such a big deal out of Rosie not fixing his cane. Decoration?

I think it would've been a better idea to wait for season 2 to come out and then use that argument.

 

[Comiphorous]

Could just be implying the fact if it hit a vital point, sliced him, or if he didn't escape in time, he would've been killed.

Many things could be meant by that line, but as we've been shown that wound Adam gave him was far from something he was unbothered by it. he had a whole section of the finale dedicated to his mental breakdown about almost being killed by Adam.

 

[Mythic381]

Many things could be meant by that line, but as we've been shown that wound Adam gave him was far from something he was unbothered by it. he had a whole section of the finale dedicated to his mental breakdown about almost being killed by Adam.

Yes it wounded him and got him very weak during the fight, but he's basically okay during the singing, Alastor would obviously have a mental breakdown from the fact the he almost got killed (from the point I said.) and the fact he also lost a lot of his power, and we know how big Alastor's ego is, so it's also a factor.

 

[Comiphorous]

Yes it wounded him and got him very weak during the fight, but he's basically okay during the singing, Alastor would obviously have a mental breakdown from the fact the he almost got killed (from the point I said.) and the fact he also lost a lot of his power, and we know how big Alastor's ego is, so it's also a factor.

He's literally stumbling out with blood leaking on the ground in the first second we see him in the finale. He's far from okay in that section. I do agree it does have to do with his mentality as well as that though.

 

[Mythic381]

He's literally stumbling out with blood leaking on the ground in the first second we see him in the finale. He's far from okay in that section. I do agree it does have to do with his mentality as well as that though.

Of course it's going to bleed, big point is that AWs have regeneration negation, but the fact he's shown to be walking, and singing normally is a big factor. The wound doesn't much regenerate, his physical state does though.

 

[Comiphorous]

Of course it's going to bleed, big point is that AWs have regeneration negation, but the fact he's shown to be walking, and singing normally is a big factor. The wound doesn't much regenerate, his physical state does though.

but he isn't doing those things "normally." he's explicitly shown stumbling toward his radio-show-area-whatever-you-call-it. I'm not trying to say Alastor is not enduring the wound, i'm saying he is far from unbothered by it and it shouldn't be used as evidence like it's being used in the OP.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Which is also why Adam no-sells the tentacle attacks without making a sound.

I thought we agreed to disagree. I haven't heard a good argument to why would one make such face when he is unharmed but I neverthless agreed to disagree. Why are we going back in circles?

Either bring proof Adam's weapon scales above him

I did too.

His shadows can be At most 7-C. You will make his tentacles tier 7 over my dead body for a variety of reasons.

But... you are a skeleton... /j

Now prove those weapons are made directly from the same stuff they blast fools with. Or that they even make them themselves.

Same physiology = work the same way. Hell, even "made of light" thingy is directly about all of them, they all bleed yellow thingy.

And the verse treats Alastor like a fraud who couldn't keep his end of a deal, your point?

He also treats him as the guy who gave General of Exorcists a good fight and harmed him several times. Also, what deal did he not keep again?

And another thing is how they were destroyed, not chunks of gore, but pieces. Also, there were several much further away. I invite you to go get it calced.

The point is, you are incorrectly saying tentacles took less energy than Pentious. Secondly, I already explained the magic is casual. Thirdly, I explained that they had no electricity around them.

...Not even mentioning it being Low 7-C, and near baseline at that, means that even giving the tentacles the most grace humanly possible, they ain't tier 7.

You refutted the claim I never made.

You're trying to scale Alastor's tentacles to Alastor's durability

Yeah. His durability scales to his full-magic tentacles. Not the casual magic.

I'm being pretty direct about what's being a contradiction. You just don't like when i say it.

Not really. You never mentioned it in the first posts. Made it up when I called you out for not reading the OP.

It's a CRT, the place we go to change what's on the profile.

Cool, never denied that, just brought up what is accepted and why and why not. Just like when someone brings up Sans' KR downgrade, you link them to the previous discussions and his profile - what's the problem here?

In the show, he's depicted stumbling away holding his chest tightly as blood leaks everywhere.

He is shown as walking straight, singing, going through mental breakdown. I never once saw him stumbling?

Not exactly "unbothered" if you ask me, especially when he says he nearly died from the fight where he only sustained a single hit.

Already explained. May you read it?

It honestly should be changed he can endure the hit, not that he's unbothered by it.

Kind of the same thing but to lesser extent. Doesn't change my point.
Al is a summoner type of guy. Enduring a wound wouldn't change a thing, he could've just kept spamming minions and tentacles.
You never addressed his cursing immediately after the cane broke.

They're leaks. they aren't released yet, so I pretend i don't know that will be happening later this month as a courtesy.

...you're the first one who brought up.

I honestly don't believe you are arguing in good faith here. Want to disagree? Be my guest. But don't be dishonest about it.

I think it would've been a better idea to wait for season 2 to come out and then use that argument.

It takes months in-between the episodes + I don't think it will affect Al much, especially what I'm proposing in this CRT as General of Exorcists is dead, except that it will expose regular Vox as fraud and let us add "Weakened" key to him.

 

[Mythic381]

but he isn't doing those things "normally." he's explicitly shown stumbling toward his radio-show-area-whatever-you-call-it. I'm not trying to say Alastor is not enduring the wound, i'm saying he is far from unbothered by it and it shouldn't be used as evidence like it's being used in the OP.

Re-watched the clip, he is not shown stumbling at all, he's just walking, and he seems to be more mad about stuff other than his actual wound

Almost dying.
Being viewed as "died for his friends."
His deal.
Wanting to restore his power.

 

[Mythic381]

Re-watched the clip, he is not shown stumbling at all, he's just walking, and he seems to be more mad about stuff other than his actual wound

And no DaReaperMan, I didn't copy that argument from Orange, I simply used my ability of perception to perceive Alastor not stumbling!

 

[DaReaperMan]

I thought we agreed to disagree. I haven't heard a good argument to why would one make such face when he is unharmed but I neverthless agreed to disagree. Why are we going back in circles?

Comedy? The fact he got squeezed? You don't have the shadow making him take two steps back and rub his chin, you have him immediately after getting slammed make an aggravated sound, make Alastor look like an absolute punk in two entire moves, and move on for more tomfuckery.

I did too.

AKA, you don't actually have anything solid, good to know.

And no DaReaperMan, I didn't copy that argument from Orange, I simply used my ability of perception to perceive Alastor not stumbling!

As for you... do I even need to tell you how suspicious this is? Or are we just gonna move on and pretend this didn't happen?

Same physiology = work the same way. Hell, even "made of light" thingy is directly about all of them, they all bleed yellow thingy.

So no, you have no proof that angels other than Adam make their own AWs. Good to know.

He also treats him as the guy who gave General of Exorcists a good fight and harmed him several times.

it treats him as getting his clock cleaned by Adam to the point literally 5 seconds after Alastor is gone he's dicking around more.

Also, what deal did he not keep again?

Watch the episode, what is the plot point before the battle? THAT deal he did not keep.

Yeah. His durability scales to his full-magic tentacles. Not the casual magic.

Prove there's a difference in durability. If you want this argument to beat fruit, that's my requirement here. Because everything we've seen of those tentacles is things being destroyed or them being comparable to Al in some way.

 

[Mythic381]

As for you... do I even need to tell you how suspicious this is? Or are we just gonna move on and pretend this didn't happen?

Yeah I definitely mentioned it as a joke to say that I indeed just copied it instead of watching a clip I linked.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Watch the episode, what is the plot point before the battle? THAT deal he did not keep.

His deal was to tell about what he knows about Carmilla and AWs. Nothing about even getting an army or stopping anyone.

As for the rest, as I said, I feel like we're going in circles and this ain't going anywhere, we will both die on our hills even under gun threats, so let's just agree to disagree as we did before.

 

[Mythic381]

His deal was to tell about what he knows about Carmilla and AWs. Nothing about even getting an army or stopping anyone.

As for the rest, as I said, I feel like we're going in circles and this ain't going anywhere, we will both die on our hills even under gun threats, so let's just agree to disagree as we did before.

So like... when mods?

 

[DaReaperMan]

So like... when mods?

It's Hazbin. Season 2 will be fully out by the time this shit gets a single evaluation mod on it.

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

So like... when mods?

Hazbin is understaffed when it comes to mod attention.
We'll be here a while so might as well get the arguments out there

 

[ShionAH]

Adam wasn’t going all out ‘till Lucifer, he was way above the Hotel’s paygrade to take them seriously.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Already addressed that.
Would you stop stonewalling please?