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This one is worse cause it's from one of the chief worshippers of big number from Bumlas who historically has uh... shaky calcs.
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Hazbin Hotel Discussion Thread
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DarkLock92
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I'm gonna request these to be removed
Edit: Maybe I'll leave the Sukuna one, doesn't seem like AWs were a big factor
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Anonymous_Learner
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the sukuna one can go to since the only reason they weren't a factor is cuz they vaguely upscaled alastor. It's hard to argue them being tier 5 and alastor having a tier 5 barrier isn't game changing
DarkLock92
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Tbf Weakened Alastor doesn't have the tier 5 barrier iirc but yeah
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How much faster than Lute do think characters like Alastor and Adam are?
When Gravity was released, many people were saying that Lute was faster than Alastor.
When Gravity was released, many people were saying that Lute was faster than Alastor.
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DarkLock92
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Why? I don't remember anything in Gravity that would suggest that
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It wasn't because of the music, but because it reignited Lute's agenda.
DarkLock92
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Of course
Anonymous_Learner
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No staff al got blitzed by adam and that scar further weakened him and Lute got intercepted by and held back Em and she reacted to M.O.L soooo
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Hey so since this Calc got accepted i wanna bring up a topic i think could change
the importance of this Calc a fair bit.
And its simply just i think we need to decide where the line of Demon Form and Not Demon Form is.
Cause when Alastor preformed this feat i would say he wasn't in a state which i would consider a Demon Form, as all that had
changed on him was his Antlers getting bigger and his eyes glowing, I personally don't think that's enough of a change to scale him any
differently.
oh and the reason this matters is due to the fact Pentious was able to survive being slamed around by Alastor Tentacles
in the Pilot so if this does Scale for Pen's Dura then it (might) Scale for the other Overlords due to Zestial easily being to send
Pentious flying with one attack, in which seem to knock Pentious down for an extended period of time.
the importance of this Calc a fair bit.
And its simply just i think we need to decide where the line of Demon Form and Not Demon Form is.
Cause when Alastor preformed this feat i would say he wasn't in a state which i would consider a Demon Form, as all that had
changed on him was his Antlers getting bigger and his eyes glowing, I personally don't think that's enough of a change to scale him any
differently.
oh and the reason this matters is due to the fact Pentious was able to survive being slamed around by Alastor Tentacles
in the Pilot so if this does Scale for Pen's Dura then it (might) Scale for the other Overlords due to Zestial easily being to send
Pentious flying with one attack, in which seem to knock Pentious down for an extended period of time.
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I hadn't fixed the calculation yet... damn. Well, I'll fix it someday, it's just a support calculation.
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what was wrong with it?
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I'm not sure if I'd call it a speedblitz since Alastor was focused on the staff before being hit, and managed to move back a bit to lessen the damage, but it was definitely slower.
Regarding Emilly, following that logic... why was Lute previously scaling for FTL? Actually, why was the entire verse "Ftl" because of Emilly's Feat previous?
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because she couldnt outrun vox grabbing her, and everyone else scales relative like the MCU
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The dimensions of the door in the original calculation is slightly inflated (which was admitted by the blog creator), although it is still taller than Angel Dust.
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Vox 100%... and Vox was already one of the most powerful Overlords in Hell in season 1.
DarkLock92
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It wasn't 100% Vox who caught Emily.
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The reason everyone was scaling to Vox tho is that the Exorcists are a threat to him and yet they don't blitz regular ass Sinners.
It does seem like Lucifer is the only guy who's noticeably faster than everyone else in the verse, at least rn
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You're right, but Vox was already far superior to the one in the first season, having skyrocketed after Alastor's fall and his performance in episode 5, and recently, after attacking Heaven.
DarkLock92
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Yet he still got hurt by Valentino's throw.
I personally don't think Vox's stats vary that much unless he achieves 100%
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Again, this only applies to a weaker Vox, and ordinary Sinners couldn't even react to the Alastor vs. Vees fight. Hazbin Hotel isn't the MCU; we have several scenes that demonstrate that certain characters have superior speed to others. Nifty is shown as extremely fast, the fight between Lute and Vaggie isn't even reacted to by the Sinners at the Hotel, Adam was able to surprise Charlie twice, and only had one attack parried when he was screaming, going straight towards her. Alastor at the Base in episode 8 was speedblitzing exorcists and casually dodging Adam's blows.
It's also worth mentioning that the exorcists enjoyed the exterminations and had their guard down, so they might simply not have been going all out against Randoms.
DarkLock92
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Mostly travel speed, Velvette and Valentino can still fight her (mostly Velvette)
Everyone else was Busy
True, but these two are already exceptional
And yet they can still be intercepted by the likes of the cannibals and Angel Dust even after Sinners proved they had the means to fight back, so no reason to hold back
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Honestly, this scene is strange. In the first season, Vox would get slapped by Valentino without even flinching, while in this one, a stronger Vox is injured by a thrown glass (although one could argue that Valentino was more serious this time).
Anyway, this isn't the Vox that attacked Emilly either, and it doesn't make sense for Vox to be faster than Emilly, who could reach and grab Lute, the co-leader of the exorcists, who were supposedly just as fast as this same Vox. This is a circular scale, dependent on Vox not having increased his speed.
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There's still a speed difference, and Velvette proved to be slightly inferior to Nifty in combat, although close.
Angel Dust and Cherri were very busy being cheerleaders.
Much more than it seems.
This happened at the beginning of the war, and well, the exorcists technically won the war, at least until Boss came down to save the princess.
DarkLock92
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When did Vox get slapped by Valentino? I don't remember that happening
It does show, at least to me, that Vox's ratings don't influence his stats that much unless he reaches 100%. He can take a kick from Velvette at his weakest, be relative to the other Vees for most of season 1 and 2, and then take damage from Valentino after capturing Alastor. To me this shows that he's still comparable to them despite his varying ratings, until they're at 100% and then the power difference is acknowledged.
Vox doesn't need to be overwhelmingly faster than Emily to tag her, he can just be comparable to her and the Exorcists
DarkLock92
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A small difference, given they're still ultimately comparable
Oh mb you meant season 2, I thought you were talking about the season 1 finale. I mean they really couldn't have done anything regardless.
They had numbers and a flight advantage, I don't think it's a matter of speed
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Emilly is standing in front of Vox several meters away, and then she is hit and trapped by Vox's wires without being able to do anything. This doesn't seem to me to be an indication that they are comparable.
Although, to be fair, the only ones with clearly different speeds are the God Tiers, so it's understandable.
DarkLock92
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Maybe comparable is not the right word, and maybe Vox did get a little bit faster, but I don't think it's anything substantial
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y'all can think what you want of the way i scale this verse but y'all can't say i ain't dedicated to it.
went on a cruise for 4 days and, while at a party, spent hours on this site and, as soon as i got home today on the computer, i got to work on thst Charlie response.
I'm more active on this verse's scaling than on JJK's and i like JJK far more and this verse is pure hell in every sense of the word yet i keep fricking coming back
went on a cruise for 4 days and, while at a party, spent hours on this site and, as soon as i got home today on the computer, i got to work on thst Charlie response.
I'm more active on this verse's scaling than on JJK's and i like JJK far more and this verse is pure hell in every sense of the word yet i keep fricking coming back
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My main goal on this site is to support Demon Slayer, but I'm supporting the Hellaverse more and having more fun here... the gravitational pull of this verse is really strong.y'all can think what you want of the way i scale this verse but y'all can't say i ain't dedicated to it.
went on a cruise for 4 days and, while at a party, spent hours on this site and, as soon as i got home today on the computer, i got to work on thst Charlie response.
I'm more active on this verse's scaling than on JJK's and i like JJK far more and this verse is pure hell in every sense of the word yet i keep fricking coming back
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Hellaverse is truly a bottomless pit.
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Do you think Count Dooku solos Hellaverse?
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Random question.
I don't know, everyone in the Hellaverse seems to be terrible at combat skills.
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If the hellaverse built the "*******-Kill-Darth-Tyrannus-3000" with hax to specifically kill Count Dooku flawlessly without issue Count Dooku would still solo because they've never heard a man get stabbed before.
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It'd fail because they used one extra N!
Indeed. And they lack good heat resistance.
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THAT'S HOW YOU SPELL IT???? WHAT DO YOU MEAN IT'S SPELLED TYRANUS????
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I've spelled his darth name wrong for years. Holy ****.
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Whenever it's written, yeah lol
It's mostly because he is almost always called Dooku or Count Dooku lmfao, the proper spelling was gained from sources beyond the movies/shows
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Up until two years ago, I didn't even know he had that name.
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