Oh do you want Marvel and DC where people rip chunks out of eachother? Maybe you want Alastor getting his arm blown off? Or are you going to accept that a lot of injuries in this verse just don't visually show up 80% of the time? Husk gets full stop blasted by Velvette barely a minute after this and he's got no blood drawn and just has some hashtags on him that disappear by the next scene he's in.
Two wrongs don't make a right, more verses should be anal about their scaling.
Problem is everyone is literally in the same boat because of the Overlord scaling circle, the Vees basically are the baseline right now for the Overlords which is anywhere between "Upscaling from random fodder that are actually nobodies" or "Downscaling to a character who is most definitely stronger, to an unknown level".
I mean, yes...? These guys are immortal, I think fights would go even harder if they started doing stuff like that.
I mean, if the only scaling Velvette had was the Husk fight I would give her an At Most rating, since she didn't seriously harm him
She was able to physically overpower him, as shown by the end of the fight
I said it as a joke earlier since I figured there were more solid scaling feats somewhere, but since this is all magic shit, do we know that Alastor's not a glass cannon (that his durability scales to his output)?
As shown with the fight with 100% Vox, Al can physically throw down just fine with the both of them being able to tank attacks from one other. So nothing about Al is special in that regard unless we consider magic in general to scale far above the characters (I'm not arguing on that since my only role for all this is actually making the profiles for the Vees indexing their powers and abilities. All this stat, lore, and physiology talk are beyond me outside of my basic observations).
The point that went over your head is that this isn't a verse that shows blood being drawn very often.
In his fight with 100% Vox, though this is full demon, his magic and physicals both harm Vox, and Vox harms Al(more, admittedly, but it's not like Alastor was incomparable entirely.)
Vox, Alastor, and Velvette are notably examples for characters who's scaling doesn't change with their magic(Velvette later fights Nifty with both magic and physicals)
I'll try to make sure the abilities listed at least make reasonable sense
'ALASTOR VS THE VEES: DOES MAKING SOMEONE BLEED MEAN YOU SCALE?!?!'
I'll certainly try to keep things reasonable, and there 100% will be an option for us spending a little time getting calcs done for Al and Vox throwing eachother around in their final fight for alternative scaling.
I mean by the same logic Velvette making Alastor bleed would be Base GOAT > Base deer. We see later that Alastor can handle Vox's electrocution without bleeding so it's probably just a combination of both the damages working together (being grapples and shocked). Just because you can make a guy bleed doesn't mean you're stronger
People are weird about making everyone High 6-A scaling off Godtiers, which is fair
Because the vees don't have anti-feats and Cherri gets overpowered by someone whos is grossly overpowered by Val repeatedly.
Being insanly inferior to 100% Vox who is insanely superior to 80% Vox who is above 60% Vox who is comparable to the other Vees is some kind of antifeat
Since when did we have power levels to this shit and when was 60% the default?
Prove what percentage Vox was at for the fight.
Yo buddy we get it, Vox is stronger than a weaker Vox.
Yeah, obviously not everyone contributes equally, some are stronger, some are weaker.
From all their fights, doesn't seem like there's a single time he actually landed a hit on her
And, Mythic, who DOES Pentious land a hit on and trade blows with? Certainly not someone who was strangling Cherri without giving her a chance to properly fight back...
Uh, the only time Pentious hit Angel Dust was during their fight in the Pilot, which he didn't even hit him, he just slams him after restraining him with some chains, which Angel was completely unfazed from, heck when Angel Dust discovered he was a spy, Pentious easily got restrained by Angel and resorted to hypnotizing him.
Rewatching that scene, Angel literally yelped when he was yanked, and Pentious tanked a jumping kick from Cherri... so...
And Pentious could successfully struggle against Angel Dust to turn around to hit him with the hypnosis.
You don't just yelp from getting hurt, someone literally wraps a chain around you and you suddenly find yourself in the air, of course you will yelp.
He doesn't really "tank it" he closed his eyes like he was actually hurt.
Isn't that just LS? He already is shown to be able to wrap Angel Dust with chains and slam him.
As @Tllmbrg said, it’s more of a paper cutting than anything. Still downscales in my book though.
The second time was his head, first was way closer to his chest injury.
In Vs vs. Alastor fight he was immensely lower than his 100%, since you see from the graph that Alastor’s capture surged his popularity like crazy.
I'm not arguing against that, im pointing out stuff that doesnt make the scaling completely unusable. Vox being able to make Alastor bleed without directly interacting with the scar counts
Big problem with boards like that, we dont know where Vox's starting point is before and after. Dude was already doing a slander campaign and doing the best to keep his image up on over-time before it.
His yelp started right when the chain got tight.
Yeah getting jumping attacked does hurt, does it not? but it's proof of A) Not being one-shot and B) Being able to properly trade blows. Same thing goes to Angel.
If spinning your body around is LS, then maybe, this isn't my area of expertise. See above since Angel did punch him though.
Also he was able to restrain Emily
Yeah we mentioned that earlier, I believe the current idea is that Emily is just weak for a Seraphim/doesnt know how to properly use her powers like that.
she should not even be that weak compared to Sera or something like that, MAN ARE YOU TELLING ME THAT ADAM IS ABOVE HER?
oh yeah
