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Rosie has like white rose powersTbf Rosie has exact same green powers, and I don’t think a deal can grant more than the sides can provide (like you can’t just make a deal with no-name to kill Seraphims)
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Rosie has like white rose powersTbf Rosie has exact same green powers, and I don’t think a deal can grant more than the sides can provide (like you can’t just make a deal with no-name to kill Seraphims)
I want you to rewatch that scene, and tell me what Alastor is ripping away?Are people really arguing a character isn't relative to another character he was ripping the guts out of?
Yeah I'm not saying there's some stomp difference between them, I'm saying Vox was literally ragdolling Alastor and drawing blood with ease, along with a statement of him being stronger, means he's just flat out stronger.I think the point was that Vox >= Alastor given this and charged attack, and the fact that Al literally punched him away once.
That could be a good baseline for regular sinners since Baxter doesn't seem to have any fighting capacities like the rest of the castIs Baxter reacting to Vox's electricity coming from his wires not a good feat?
You could also argue Emily sort of reacted to the big laser that pierced heaven. She got clipped but at least she didn't get full on obliterated.
Rewatch scene where she makes deal with Alastor or where they talk about him being a double-dealing manipulator.Rosie has like white rose powers
I got supersonic+ and Class M/G for acceleration, but not sure if we can scale it to the LS of the castHas there been a calc for shock.wav's speed?
I’m just saying it logically/narratively soesn’t make sense to argue Alastor > RosieThe specifics of how it works aren't defined in the verse so trying to argue for its limits is pointless and headcanon. It's better to just take what's shown as the maximum of this ability.
Tbh the fact that Alastor was capable of holding his own and more-or-less winning against a guy who's vastly stronger than him says more about his combat intelligenceI want you to rewatch that scene, and tell me what Alastor is ripping away?
Certainly no CABLES he could effortlessly rip through in base without going demon form not five minutes earlier, right?
...Yes, those are the cables he's ripping away.
Yeah I'm not saying there's some stomp difference between them, I'm saying Vox was literally ragdolling Alastor and drawing blood with ease, along with a statement of him being stronger, means he's just flat out stronger.
I'm not saying "Alastor got FUCKSTOMPED! Vox made him his *****!" No they could absolutely damage eachother, it's just one was doing more without charging up.
I don't think Alastor is superior to Rosie. I just don't think the power that Rosie gave Alastor was her power or had anything to do with her.I’m just saying it logically/narratively soesn’t make sense to argue Alastor > Rosie
LS wise I think not at allI got supersonic+ and Class M/G for acceleration, but not sure if we can scale it to the LS of the cast
also rewatch the scene where Alastor contract breaks and the chains break too (and also Rosie eyes)Rewatch scene where she makes deal with Alastor or where they talk about him being a double-dealing manipulator.
Seraphims do cuz vibes scaling go!LS wise I think not at all
Oh it absolutely does, it's definitely something to put in his skill sectionTbh the fact that Alastor was capable of holding his own and more-or-less winning against a guy who's vastly stronger than him says more about his combat intelligence
This just means she got two types of power and further supports my argument that Rosie > Alastoralso rewatch the scene where Alastor contract breaks and the chains break too (and also Rosie eyes)
So Weakened Alastor is abbreviated to W Alastor huh. Makes sense, he cooked hardly in this season frW!Alastor
Reaper is doing it but I have some fire takes which I'm not sure if this community is ready for so idk if he'll apply my suggestionsWhen's the CRT? Who is doing it and what are we doing?
Why cant we do it like the Gravity Falls one, where we all discuss it as we make itReaper is doing it
I think that there's way too many calcs to be done first. And wasn't @Detective_Blizzard making a sandbox for all the Vees?When's the CRT? Who is doing it and what are we doing?
Depends, we have new hax, new character profiles, new speed feats, new calculations, new general additions for Lucifer, new possible cosmology upgrades, and more.When's the CRT? Who is doing it and what are we doing?
It's going to be multiple CRTsWhen's the CRT? Who is doing it and what are we doing?
What other calculations are to be done at this point besides Emily reaching Alastor before the light beam?I think that there's way too many calcs to be done first. And wasn't @Detective_Blizzard making a sandbox for all the Vees?
I will handle AdamDepends, we have new hax, new character profiles, new speed feats, new calculations, new general additions for Lucifer, new possible cosmology upgrades, and more.
Depends on who will do each.
Then you get to debate Alastor vs Adam for the umpteenth time.
Adam's barely changing, honestly.I will handle Adam![]()
Ok hear me out, seven angels worked on the shield that Lucifer destroyed so assuming Adam is as powerful as them he'd be 1/7 of 20 exatons which is 2.86 ExatonsThen you get to debate Alastor vs Adam for the umpteenth time.
Three/Four LS feats for Alastor since the current Class M feat was recalced to Class K, and Shock.wav speed featWhat other calculations are to be done at this point besides Emily reaching Alastor before the light beam?
Just scale her below the beam, she reacted to it and moved with it, she doesn't need a calc to scale.Emily's feat is not possible to calculate, since for that I would have to use another calc for the speed of the laser, which would fall into calc stacking
That's not what I was saying.Three/Four LS feats for Alastor since the current Class M feat was recalced to Class K, and Shock.wav speed feat
Emily's feat is not possible to calculate, since for that I would have to use another calc for the speed of the laser, which would fall into calc stacking
Why below? She clearly keeps pace (goes even faster at one point) with it to save Alastor nglJust scale her below the beam
Inside wires they're Relativistic I thinkIs Baxter reacting to Vox's electricity coming from his wires not a good feat?
Because to properly scale, one needs to dodge the attack. She semi-reacts but not fully.Why below? She clearly keeps pace (goes even faster at one point) with it to save Alastor ngl
Cause her ass couldn't properly dodge it and got Pidgeon'dWhy below? She clearly keeps pace (goes even faster at one point) with it to save Alastor ngl
When she saw that the beam was about to hit her she couldn't dodge it, besides she reached Alastor sooner because she was closerWhy below? She clearly keeps pace (goes even faster at one point) with it to save Alastor ngl
I am giving him Immortality Type 6, his misogyny can possess othersAdam's barely changing, honestly.
I will make a Sera profile tooIf you had to ask me right now where he'd scale, it'd be "At least 6-C, At most High 6-A", with nobody scaling to his At most Rating(So like, Alastor wouldn't.)
Oh yesss...
I'll probably be doing cosmology since no one seems to care enough to argue them, and they're definitely a real pain in the ass to deal withI will handle Adam![]()
I will make a Sera profile too
Sera definitely scales to thisOk hear me out, seven angels worked on the shield that Lucifer destroyed so assuming Adam is as powerful as them he'd be 1/7 of 20 exatons which is 2.86 Exatons![]()
Cause her ass couldn't properly dodge it and got Pidgeon'd
She was behind Charlie who was near the weaponWhen she saw that the beam was about to hit her she couldn't dodge it, besides she reached Alastor sooner because she was closer
Three times is good, so Shion gets it 100%Damn the three of us said it at the same time lmao
correct me if I'm wrong but at that point both Charlie and Emily were saving sinners from the destruction Vox was causing so they were actually super far away from the gunShe was behind Charlie who was near the weapon
1.48 its fired
Emily reaches at 1.52 and saves Alastor before getting hit in the wing
She just wasnt careful enough to dodge it fully and didnt have enough time to do so
Tbh it’s not impactful unless you do Hell and Неаven separate universes, and if you do then keep in mind that majority here seems against it.I'll probably be doing cosmology since no one seems to care enough to argue them