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Hazbin Hotel Discussion Thread

Still confused about how Alastor broke free from Rose's contract. Not only he could still fight Post-amp Vox (the "strongest sinner") but he was still weakened since his staff wasn't fixed. Maybe it was more about Alastor not being known as the strongest anymore?
 
Still confused about how Alastor broke free from Rose's contract. Not only he could still fight Post-amp Vox (the "strongest sinner") but he was still weakened since his staff wasn't fixed. Maybe it was more about Alastor not being known as the strongest anymore?
Vox was the strongest in that moment since he didn’t touch Charlie yet and still owned Al

Spoiler it btw
 
Also, Vox just straight up says that he was more powerful then he's ever been in that moment. He seems to just get stronger the higher his approval rating is (100% = Strongest Sinner in Hell). So when his rating went down in the fight he just straight up got weaker
 
Okay, my overrall opinion about this season is basically the same as the previous one. Sure, this one was miles better but still, tons of things felt underveloped and rushed, which is hard to blame since the cap of episode is only 8. The idea of many overlords fearing Alastor is cool and all but it would have been way better with some "filler" episodes (or even just one) talking about it

Lute doing NOTHING the whole season was quite disappointing, but I bet that next season there will be something. Just weird how they decided to use the music Gravity without any pay off

Vox was also a waaaay better villain than Adam, but it's not as if the bar was high anyway

With that said, very good hype moments and aura

Next season I hope we get something from Zestial
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Also, do we know if Viv ever tried to put Hazbin on Adult Swim? They give way more freedom there
 
Untill you remember that he's still equal to Stolas,
Still banking on a 5 year old quote where she says she didn’t really put that much thought into it. Honestly I don’t even think we should still use it
below Rosie,
Rosie is roo trust
and Lilith
Vox actually implies Lilith is a sinner

Also Alastors stocks were about him being the strongest sinner, while weakened he overpowered an amped vox. Bringing up angels is pointless
 
Still banking on a 5 year old quote where she says she didn’t really put that much thought into it. Honestly I don’t even think we should still use it

Rosie is roo trust

Vox actually implies Lilith is a sinner

Also Alastors stocks were about him being the strongest sinner, while weakened he overpowered an amped vox. Bringing up angels is pointless
He literally was in his full demon form and full power and Vox could still fight him, he lost, but still could fight him, and sorry, but nothing ever implies that Alastor is even close to Lilith's level, and sorry to disappoint you but Vivz still believes that Stolas and Alastor are near equals, you can cry all you want, it wouldn't make it not canon.
 
I can calc the AP tonight, but no clue how to calc the speed since Viv said that Heaven and Hell are different dimensions
But she also said that it's indeed accessible via space-traversal, and we see the barrier encompassing Heaven from outside, so we can technically calculate the distance?
 
He literally was in his full demon form and full power and Vox could still fight him, he lost, but still could fight him, and sorry, but nothing ever implies that Alastor is even close to Lilith's level, and sorry to disappoint you but Vivz still believes that Stolas and Alastor are near equals, you can cry all you want, it wouldn't make it not canon.
1. He's still weakened and we have no idea where lilith scales

2. When did Vizie say that recently, even in the interview she said she's not sure and her friend tells her alastor is stronger to which she says she doesn't care enough. Literally cropping out the interview from 5 years ago to suit your narrative. The Pilot itself is only soft canon as well
 
Yeah, imagine that Sera needed the power of other 6 angels to create a barrier all around Heaven...AND YET ************* LUCIFER DESTROYED THE BARRIER (not to mention, HOW THE **** DID EVEN GOT TO HELL WITHOUT A FIGHT?)
Sera herself said it was just to buy time and it's clear that she didn't put a lot of power into it or to maintaining it given she let it pop even if she didn't know that it would blast the Pearly Gates off its hinges.

Also important to remember that she didn't even care about the power of the attack, just what the attack meant (Hell can reach Heaven) and likewise was still torn about whether to still maintain peace or go to War with Hell, so I don't think it's some sort of "Lucifer is the second strongest in Creation" as much as it's "The full power of a Seraphim brought to bare."

The staff was still broken
It seems like Rosie has fixed his staff now at the end of the show in the scene with him overlooking the Hotel, possibly a part of the new deal he made with her.
 
It seems like Rosie has fixed his staff now at the end of the show in the scene with him overlooking the Hotel, possibly a part of the new deal he made with her.
I'm aware, I'm talking about in the fight against Vox

The deal was simple tho. "Fix my staff and I help". No big thing
 
He literally was in his full demon form and full power and Vox could still fight him, he lost, but still could fight him, and sorry, but nothing ever implies that Alastor is even close to Lilith's level, and sorry to disappoint you but Vivz still believes that Stolas and Alastor are near equals, you can cry all you want, it wouldn't make it not canon.
Maybe if Stolas wasn't given anti-feats every few seconds, he would ACTUALLY BE A THREAT to Al. As it stands he ducks around and gets wrecked.
 
I'm aware, I'm talking about in the fight against Vox

The deal was simple tho. "Fix my staff and I help". No big thing
it’s probably more than that. There’s no way he’s still at the hotel unless Rosie’s new deal had him complete his task but with more freedom
 
Maybe if Stolas wasn't given anti-feats every few seconds, he would ACTUALLY BE A THREAT to Al. As it stands he ducks around and gets wrecked.
Doesn't help that none of the goetia are good at fighting. Andre literally got his shit smacked by a powerless Stolas. Alastor is going to overwhelm stolas considering how once he warmed up he literally started beating the shit out of vox to the point vox needed shock.wav to DISTRACT alastor
 
Maybe if Stolas wasn't given anti-feats every few seconds, he would ACTUALLY BE A THREAT to Al. As it stands he ducks around and gets wrecked.
Isn't the literal only anti-feat is that Andrealphus got defeated by a weakened Stolas, not that Stolas actually has physical anti-feats?
 
Doesn't help that none of the goetia are good at fighting. Andre literally got his shit smacked by a powerless Stolas. Alastor is going to overwhelm stolas considering how once he warmed up he literally started beating the shit out of vox to the point vox needed shock.wav to DISTRACT alastor
This too, why are we pretending like Alastor wouldn't have EVENTUALLY won against Shock.wav? He kinda had to deal with not being shot by the angelic cannon.

Speaking of cannons, considering how far Vox was and the timeframe, isn't Alastor's gomu gomu no rocket supersonic or something? Which scales to his C/R due to him being able to properly strike Vox? What kind of number would that get?
 
Isn't the literal only anti-feat is that Andrealphus got defeated by a weakened Stolas, not that Stolas actually has physical anti-feats?
got tagged by an imp with a shotgun and a rope


Now that i mention it, Alastor got hit by an archangel and still was the strongest sinner despite the angelic energy still being in his scar since we see it crackle with golden electricty. Stolas couldn't do any magic despite being binded by a rope.......
 
Isn't the literal only anti-feat is that Andrealphus got defeated by a weakened Stolas, not that Stolas actually has physical anti-feats?
The problem is that we haven't actually seen what stolas's magic can actually do, and all we have are statements that the Goetia are above the overlords, which honestly it seems like that might be a little bit out of date/viv doesn't really care about making the goetia higher anymore, Alastor for right now s*** stomps
 
got tagged by an imp with a shotgun and a rope
Once again, I'm pretty sure at this point that speed is mostly equal across all players in the verse, with nobody actually being faster than another person or at least not by that much, as opposed to places like One Piece where Luffy at the beginning of the east blue arc would be completely speed blitzed by kizaru, hazbin just doesn't have that
 
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