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Hazbin Hotel Discussion Thread
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Speaking of songs and good writing, Vox's newest song is now on youtube. And they bloody censored "Fuhrer" for the subtitles lol
Anonymous_Learner
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That crack theory Orange talked a few pages ago about Vox just got more evidence /j
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Alacat-thing supremacy
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I'm ngl, given how Vox is supposed to parallel Alastor, his wires coming out of his spine for attack are probably his Partial Demon Form. And I think we all agree that his Full Demon Form is his "Sera-imitation" thingy.
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Hazbin writing is so weird cause last season the writing as a whole was kind of just ranged from kind of bad to okay/mid with no specific characters having any big variance in terms of writing quality compared to the others. This season it seems like they swapped it around somehow cause how the hell are the antagonists getting the best writing while the main characters are getting scraps or weird writing choices. Alastor and Vox have some of the best moments while I honestly can't really name a particularly stand out moment from any of the main characters from the last few episodes.
Songs carry in both seasons they're pretty consistently good with a few flops here and there imo.
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XSOULOFCINDERX
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Can't wait to see this age like milk somehow.Apparently VivziePop can relate...
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Haven't watched the episodes yet but i'm aware about the new Lucifer weakness...
How are we going to treat that outside the verse? If lucifer cannot harm sinners does this apply to literally any soul who's a sinner or only hellaverse sinners? Is [Insert undead/ghost evil character] VS Lucifer a comical stomp because Lucifer physically cannot harm them?
How are we going to treat that outside the verse? If lucifer cannot harm sinners does this apply to literally any soul who's a sinner or only hellaverse sinners? Is [Insert undead/ghost evil character] VS Lucifer a comical stomp because Lucifer physically cannot harm them?
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Probably helluva sinners only cause it only applies to sinners in their verse's hell
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It would be if Sinner is close to what it should be in HH yea. If you can equalize Hell of that verse and Hell in HH, then Sinner status can be equalized too. So yea would be a comical stomp.
Victories:
Losses:
Losses:
- Optimus Prime (Transformers) Optimus Prime's Profile (The fight took place in hell, 100 meters away, equal speed, Lucifer used his demonic form, both kings fought until the end.)
- Vox (Hazbin Hotel) Vox's Profile (The fight took place in hell, 1 m away, Vox was just 10^-99 Joule away from death + paralyzed + unable to think + all abilities turned off while Lucifer was allowed to have comp + all equipment)
- Alastor (Hazbin Hotel) Alastor's Profile (The fight took place in hell, 1 m away, Alastor was just 10^-99 Joule away from death + paralyzed + unable to think + all abilities turned off while Lucifer was allowed to have comp + all equipment)
- Sir Pentious (Hazbin Hotel) Sir Pentious' Profile (The fight took place in hell, 1 m away, Sir Pentious was just 10^-99 Joule away from death + paralyzed + unable to think + all abilities turned off while Lucifer was allowed to have comp + all equipment)
- Cherri Bomb (Hazbin Hotel) Cherri Bomb's Profile (The fight took place in hell, 1 m away, Cherri Bomb was just 10^-99 Joule away from death + paralyzed + unable to think + all abilities turned off while Lucifer was allowed to have comp + all equipment)
- Angel Dust (Hazbin Hotel) Sir Pentious's Profile (The fight took place in hell, 1 m away, Angel Dust was just 10^-99 Joule away from death + paralyzed + unable to think + all abilities turned off while Lucifer was allowed to have comp + all equipment)
- Husker (Hazbin Hotel) Husk's Profile (The fight took place in hell, 1 m away, Husk was just 10^-99 Joule away from death + paralyzed + unable to think + all abilities turned off while Lucifer was allowed to have comp + all equipment)
- Valentino (Hazbin Hotel) Husk's Profile (The fight took place in hell, 1 m away, Valentino was just 10^-99 Joule away from death + paralyzed + unable to think + all abilities turned off while Lucifer was allowed to have comp + all equipment)
- Velvette (Hazbin Hotel) Velvette's Profile (The fight took place in hell, 1 m away, Velvette was just 10^-99 Joule away from death + paralyzed + unable to think + all abilities turned off while Lucifer was allowed to have comp + all equipment)
- Carmilla (Hazbin Hotel) Velvette's Profile (The fight took place in hell, 1 m away, Carmilla was just 10^-99 Joule away from death + paralyzed + unable to think + all abilities turned off while Lucifer was allowed to have comp + all equipment)
- Loopty Goopty (Hazbin Hotel) Loopty Goopty (The fight took place in hell, 1 m away, Carmilla was just 10^-99 Joule away from death + paralyzed + unable to think + all abilities turned off while Lucifer was allowed to have comp + all equipment)
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Dude...
This would technically be a stomp...
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(Maybe-not-the-)Weakest Fraudcifer victimizer right over there
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I think the worst part about the "sinner" status in HH is how easy someone can get it.
Pentious got it for not reporting a crime, so technically a metric fuckload of characters in fiction would fall under the "sinner" category by HH rules and wouldn't be able to be harmed by Lucifer even if they may not be evil characters.
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Eh no, they must actually die in their verse and go to a similar Hell.
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Yeah on the prefix that they are ghost/undead/soul of the damned/some variation of such.
Point is, Pentious was sent to hell for being scared to report a crime. HH Hell is a b) and it's definition of Sinner is probably a bigger bubble than what other series probably specify a sinner as. I can see making any thread with Lucifer will be a pain when that's in his weakness section.
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Not really, just existing as undead would not do. Zombie from Minecraft does not tank anything Lu throws at him. I’d also argue that being a ghost would in fact disqualify, since HH Sinners seem to exclude ghosts.
It doesn’t really matter how HH gives qualification for a Sinner, since Lu’s opponent should become one already and be in a similar Hell, and his own verse may have whatever qualification - I don’t think it would matter as long as it led to him becoming a Sinner-like being.
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I suppose how the rules really matter/how they apply because Lucifer gave a very vague description on how it works.
as far i understand sinners are not officially labeled as sinners until death, because adam exists and he obviously would fall under "sinner" due to the whole mass genocide thing for seven years and adam got his ass whooped by Lucifer.
we obviously aren't given any real rules on the punishment, but considering the context of the punishment the soul likely has to have gone to hell to some capacity since the punishment has to do with his kingdom.
So i suppose any soul that's died and gone to hell and is a sinner by HH standards would apply to Lucifer's punishment? That's my assumption.
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Yup, that’s what I was trying to say over there.
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Going back to your minecraft comparison, does this mean nether mobs fall under lucifer's punishment?
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Well, it's because the Heaven v Hell is the reason for the Hotel in the first place, so it's just a core issue. There ain't really ways to ignore the war and everything that's happening is basically a consequence of the core issue that the Hotel seeks to resolve.
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Reminder that being Undead doesn't make you a Sinner.
Stolas could reanimate the bodies of the dead to summon himself while he was still in Hell. So there's definitely a distinction between simply being Undead and being a Sinner.
Mainly, a Sinner is someone who's gone to Hell after Divine Judgement from whoever God is in Hellaverse.
Just dying by itself clearly doesn't make you a Sinner or Winner as souls in enter Hell aren't just disembodied souls. There's some sort of metamorphosis that takes place between then and reaching your appropriate afterlife, namely, how you died affecting how you look. It's rarely a conscious choice. The only time we've seen someone affect change on their bodies is Vox going from CRT TV to Flatscreen but it doesn't change the core of his appearance (TV headman).
So no, it's not going to be a case that anyone with Immortality type 7 is going to stomp Lucifer.
Likewise, we learn that the Ars Goetia are made by Lucifer directly, and we see that they can affect the living, so presumably, Lucifer can create beings who can hurt Sinners, Winners and the Living or Goetia along with Lucifer can just affect the Living and Winners by default and his punishment doesn't extend to Winners and the Living since he can't normally come into contact with them.
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure that ghosts are said to not exists at all in the Hellaverse thanks to Helluva Boss
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Nether isn’t Hell its more of just an different dimension
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At least you are not Blitz buzcko
Udlmaster
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Bit of a difference between a common phrase "I'm the ****" and "I'm a living aspect of the Infinite."
One is obviously gassing him up, the other is showing off what he's got.
Like, this isn't textual literalism or just taking the phrase at face value, it's just engaging with the material.
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And you need to work on your sense of humor.
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Id say Luficer saying that is probably just him gassing himself up. Cause that is most likely another way of him saying "My power came from GOD idiot, wtf you gonna do?"
Since, as a direct creation of God given his divine power, he would be seen as an aspect of him. Similar to the Goetia's relation to Lucifer.
Unless God runs under an avatar system or some shit, but at that point it's just God buffs and not Lucifer buffs since he doesn't get any of that (also makes you wonder why God is arguing with himself)
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God in this verse is a ethereal and beyond comprehension concept...the closest thing we got is the speaker of God
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Even more reason why being an aspect in any sense doesnt work. If bros a concept then you could argue everyone is an aspect of him in some way
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but he is the most direct one.
also, not really, God is God, you are you, God is everything and itself
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Says who? He just said he's a living aspect. The most direct one should be God's Voice
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no, she is the closest one to God
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That is functionally the same thing, at least of now. Theres nothing pointing to Lucifer being more directly tied to God than her.
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Well, they'd get "Unknown with Creation" unless you want to guess a time frame, or guess that they just weren't making life.
Oh, and remember staff have dealt with this shit extensively.
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man, we have them create a planet on screen, Lucifer literraly makes stuff out of nowhere...come ON, IS NOT THAT HARD
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