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Hazbin Hotel Discussion Thread

Also, that doesn't verify anything. If I recall one of the earlier posts here mentioned Viv confirming Vox went full demon mode during Stay Gone which means that the whole she was likely referring to his outburst looking like a citywide blackout.
Yeah, and the city-wide blackout also happened during Stayed Gone. Weird coincidence...
 
Which we notably see Vox standing around base form in said darkness. Weird
That's literally shown a while after the blackout happens, there's a couple seconds between the blackout. Alastor then continuing the song and us seeing Vox when he's pissing himself.
 
I thought it was about the hill feat, misread it mb.
Still kinda don't get why that was removed. I mean I guess the calc was off, but the feat still seemed pretty real and worth calcing imo.

Anyways yeah. Not sure who should address my issue with the airship feat, but it is worth considering imo.
 
That's literally shown a while after the blackout happens, there's a couple seconds between the blackout. Alastor then continuing the song and us seeing Vox when he's pissing himself.
Yes, the argument isn't "he went Full Demon to cause the blackout" the argument is "his full demon form is literally a city sized blackout". If I had to wager this is likely him going full demon (are partway there) but regardless the dude is not literally all the darkness in the city
 
1. I love Saitama and all...but no...
Oh yes, that is something that's happened common enough that we have a discussion rule against trying to use it here. This is why having some form of existent standards for feats is better than literally none.
2. Me see Vox shut down city and Stolass clouds and Adam downscaling maek me think tier 7 iz consistent
Lovely tier 8 feat you have there(Calced properly, anyways), and what is literally a big nothing feat that frankly was only made because people wanted big number on profiles, and tried(And failed, by the way) to use said big number to make other characters scale.
 
Yes, the argument isn't "he went Full Demon to cause the blackout" the argument is "his full demon form is literally a city sized blackout". If I had to wager this is likely him going full demon (are partway there) but regardless the dude is not literally all the darkness in the city
By the way Igmur is banned in the UK.
Use this site instead.
 
By the way Igmur is banned in the UK.
Use this site instead.
Yeah, so I've herd.

ALL MY LUPIN FEATS
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Yes, the argument isn't "he went Full Demon to cause the blackout" the argument is "his full demon form is literally a city sized blackout". If I had to wager this is likely him going full demon (are partway there) but regardless the dude is not literally all the darkness in the city
If the likes of Alastor can become the literal absence of light, I don't see why Vox becoming absence of energy is far-fetched, besides I'm not arguing the logic of this here, I'm simply using what is stated by the author, even if the author might sometimes make no sense, considering it's stated and then further supported in the show.
 
Oh yes, that is something that's happened common enough that we have a discussion rule against trying to use it here. This is why having some form of existent standards for feats is better than literally none.
Now you have to admit that it is still very strict
 
Dawg, please explain how do you grow in size to look like the absence of energy. When I'm saying "causing a blackout" I'm using it as a way to further elaborate he is the blackout in this situation.
He is not blackout. His Demon Form would just likely cause a blackout. Here though he just crushed out and caused a blackout via wires.
Doesn't mean it's wrong, especially if the feat was accepted at the some point, with it only being removed cuz the feat idea entirely was removed, not because it was wrong.
It doesn't mean it's wrong, it just means you have no proof now.
 
yo downgrade got two staff votes now y'all
 
He is not blackout. His Demon Form would just likely cause a blackout. Here though he just crushed out and caused a blackout via wires.
Please explain how Vivziepop stating his demon form being the blackout itself means he's the one causing it.
It doesn't mean it's wrong, it just means you have no proof now.
That's not how it works, the proof is literally recorded within the calculation.
 
I would like to point out she didn't say that Vox would be a blackout itself, she just said it would look like one. Which given what's been shown just means the actual crash-out from going demon mode causes it
 
I would like to point out she didn't say that Vox would be a blackout itself, she just said it would look like one. Which given what's been shown just means the actual crash-out from going demon mode causes it
That's how full demon forms work, you're the one transforming into the demon form.
 
That's how full demon forms work, you're the one transforming into the demon form.
Yes, but at no point do we see him turn into a blackout. A blackout is caused but there is no indication of Vox moving from his seat and the blackout still remains when we see him again. You need to make far longer stretches to say he's literally the blackout itself instead of just simply saying he's causing it.

That's like saying a character described as a natural disaster and idk saying they are large size type 2 because they spun around to create a hurricane around them (or in this case got a bit to angry and caused one)
 
Okay, that's just not the same example.
Please elaborate how a guy getting angry to cause a disaster isn't a similar example to a guy getting angry to cause a disaster

It's not literally the same thing however both examples are functionally the same where a character is causing something to occur but not actually turning into it. With what we seen of Vox the best that can be argued is that when he demons out the energy produced causes a city blackout. There's no visual indicator of Vox turning into darkness, no indicator of him turning back from darkness, with there only being him sitting in darkness.

Hell the back and forth is high-key pointless since being made of shadow doesn't mean much of anything. I remember a comment saying something like "wouldn't a punch from a city sized thing cause that much damage" but like darkness is literally a weightless object with no mass, even with the most generous interpretations and saying "oh yeah Vox TOTALLY is all the darkness in the city rn" that just means nothing since the range is the exact same and he's shown to do literally nothing with it. Hell I'd argue that's a downgrade cause anyone with the right NPI can literally shadowbox him into oblivion with no pushback
 
Because there was a CRT that pointed clear problems within it.

Make a CRT or CGD.
Fair, but as someone whose had to deal with multiple calcs getting removed with no contingency put in place, I'm not gonna do an exclusively delitory CRT like that. I might just update the calc at some point
 
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