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Hazbin Hotel Discussion Thread

Comi… the ENTIRE point of Charlie’s ideals is that even Alastor can be redeemed. Redeeming pure evil at the finale would definitely work out writing wise
Charlie’s ideals is that anyone CAN be redeemed, but they need to WANT to be redeemed. It’s why she told Vox that even he could be redeemed.

Just because someone can be, doesn’t mean they’ll want to be and that’s ultimately out of Charlie’s control. Alastor ultimately doesn’t want to be there and is unlikely to want to deal with the hotel’s shenanigans.
 
OK, I actually accidentally skipped Episode 3 revelation that Angel Dust killed his dad. That’s… oh… that’s hella strong.
 
OK, I actually accidentally skipped Episode 3 revelation that Angel Dust killed his dad. That’s… oh… that’s hella strong.
I hope he shot him in the dick before finishing the job

Jokes aside it's got like two good moments in the entire episode and that's one of them, so... yeah.
 
Jokes aside it's got like two good moments in the entire episode and that's one of them, so... yeah.
Yup exactly, the only good parts were this and Cherri Bomb/Pentious thing. And the entire reason why I accidentally skipped it was because it was in the part that sucked SO BADLY I couldn’t beat to watch this circus anymore.

I’m still giving this 3/10, but this backstory for Angel Dust is definitely adding to some depth.
 
Comi… the ENTIRE point of Charlie’s ideals is that even Alastor can be redeemed. Redeeming pure evil at the finale would definitely work out writing wise
He's not even pure evil, he quite literally just sacced himself off as a s*x pest to Vox to save Niffty in the latest episode
 
He's not even pure evil, he quite literally just sacced himself off as a s*x pest to Vox to save Niffty in the latest episode
No, that was his plan even without Niffty, the Niffty part was just an addition for current circumstances.

But I agree that he is not 100% evil, he does seem to be able to form some connection like with Niffty and Mimzy, possibly Husk and Hotel staff (temporarily) as well as Vox in the past before being disappointed in him.
 
No, that was his plan even without Niffty, the Niffty part was just an addition for current circumstances.
Yeah, especially notice how urgent he is when he sees Niffty at gunpoint. Suddenly, he wasn't willing to take his plan slowly anymore.
But I agree that he is not 100% evil, he does seem to be able to form some connection like with Niffty and Mimzy, possibly Husk and Hotel staff (temporarily) as well as Vox in the past before being disappointed in him.
Not even close to 100% TBH
 
Not even close to 100% TBH
"TBH", i think believing the cannibal serial killer who knew he was going to hell and did everything in his power to avoid the consequences of his actions isn't anywhere close to being 100% evil I think you gotta reflect a bit on Alastor.

The guy is at best like 97% evil. (May have an abstract code he kills by that probably only makes sense to him) He doesn't have any real connection with Husk and regularly terrorizes him. The only reason he had Niffty and Husk spared was likely for Charlie's hotel.
 
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"TBH", i think believing the cannibal serial killer who knew he was going to hell and did everything in his power to avoid the consequences of his actions isn't anywhere close to being 100% evil I think you gotta reflect a bit on Alastor.
I see what you mean there, but keep in mind the people he did kill weren't the best... In the best era...
As a mixed person myself, historically, he was screwed in that time period.
The guy is at worst like 97% evil. He doesn't have any real connection with Husk and regularly terrorizes him. The only reason he had Niffty and Husk spared was likely for Charlie's hotel.
Yeah, he has beef with Husk...
But he actually cares about Niffty, actually. He kept her Roach Crown, for instance.
 
Yeah, especially notice how urgent he is when he sees Niffty at gunpoint. Suddenly, he wasn't willing to take his plan slowly anymore.
IKR

The guy is at worst like 97% evil. (May have an abstract code he kills by that probably only makes sense to him) He doesn't have any real connection with Husk and regularly terrorizes him. The only reason he had Niffty and Husk spared was likely for Charlie's hotel.
Nah definitely not for Niffty, they have THE best dynamic out of any other character with Alastor. Also, he still saved Husk although could have left him there if he truly didn’t give a heck (he would’ve regenned anyways yk)
 
I see what you mean there, but keep in mind the people he did kill weren't the best... In the best era...
Bruh Alastor killed a guy because he was loud and accidentally spilled a splash of drink on him he’s evil as shit 😭

****, he owns Husk as a slave in Hell bro, chains and all; I doubt he really had any concerns about prejudice and mistreatment in his time. At best, he might’ve used it as an excuse sometimes to justify it to himself.
 
Bruh Alastor killed a guy because he was loud and accidentally spilled a splash of drink on him he’s evil as shit 😭

****, he owns Husk as a slave in Hell bro, chains and all; I doubt he really had any concerns about prejudice and mistreatment in his time. At best, he might’ve used it as an excuse sometimes to justify it to himself.
Considering he has no issue with owning Husk and Niffty, I think he had more of an issue that the prejudice was targeted at him rather than a more broad outlook on the situation.

Once he got everything he wanted and became a radio host, he still only killed those that directly bothered him. He isn't like Dexter Morgan where he killed those who deserved it because they deserved it, he killed people because they bothered him and they happen to deserve it.
 
Considering he has no issue with owning Husk and Niffty, I think he had more of an issue that the prejudice was targeted at him rather than a more broad outlook on the situation.

Once he got everything he wanted and became a radio host, he still only killed those that directly bothered him. He isn't like Dexter Morgan where he killed those who deserved it because they deserved it, he killed people because they bothered him and they happen to deserve it.
Adding onto this, Alastor grew up an era and joined a system that made the perfect environment that made it very easy for him to justify his murders. If I had to guess, Alastor likely used this perfect blend of being born evil, time period, and systematic prejudice so that he could justify killing as many people as he wanted (plus ate people cuz ig why not???)
 
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Should you guys give Alastor insane social influencing for turning into the voice of radio in 1933, the year where racism and segregation was at it's peak, plus the fact that he lived in one the most racist cities in USA, or we see it as Viv being really bad at writing and search? (Or both)
 
Should you guys give Alastor insane social influencing for turning into the voice of radio in 1933, the year where racism and segregation was at it's peak, plus the fact that he lived in one the most racist cities in USA, or we see it as Viv being really bad at writing and search? (Or both)
first more than second.
 
Should you guys give Alastor insane social influencing for turning into the voice of radio in 1933, the year where racism and segregation was at it's peak, plus the fact that he lived in one the most racist cities in USA, or we see it as Viv being really bad at writing and search? (Or both)
Considering how Rosie described it, I actually wouldn't mind giving Alastor some sort of Social Influencing for what he managed in the ******* 1930's.

I do think realistically he was never initially meant to be mixed-race Creole and was likely added to soften the blow on his many questionable design choices.
 
Sera is gonna be the best written character in the series, mark my words
Not a high bar
I do think realistically he was never initially meant to be mixed-race Creole and was likely added to soften the blow on his many questionable design choices.
This is objectively true.
He's not even pure evil, he quite literally just sacced himself off as a s*x pest to Vox to save Niffty in the latest episode
Bruh
 
There are so many meme references in new season icl


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I do think realistically he was never initially meant to be mixed-race Creole and was likely added to soften the blow on his many questionable design choices.
Pretty sure Vivziepop confirmed this due to a controversy regarding why he does Voodoo.
 
Pretty sure Vivziepop confirmed this due to a controversy regarding why he does Voodoo.
smthn about it being racist iirc

Honestly I think if they were going to change his race they might as well have actually used voodoo. Would have been interesting to see instead of tentacle ****
 
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