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Hazbin Hotel Discussion Thread

Yeah, I ain't saying that he could have no diffed Vox by just looking at him or something. I'm just saying there probably was some holding back, as he needed to make his defeat as believable as possible, as otherwise Vox would be suspicious. It also aligns with the fact that he is still called the strongest Sinner by Rosie (even though he lost 1v1 to Vox in the end of the fight off-screen). It's definitely part of the plan. But I wouldn't go as far as to say that Vox doesn't scale, as there was some genuine weakness seen too (fritzing while trying to do magic, tapping the cane, wound was clearly not a pleasure).
What I'm saying is Vox can scale to him outright when he's weakened, You can be comparable with small differences in power lol
 
Oh and before I forget:
 
I saw a really good theory about why
alastor is being vox’s b*tch so suddenly.

He’s trying to amp vox because vox is a sinner, making Rosie have to step in so the contract is upheld. And then break his own contract with vox because Charlie is going to fight vox to save Alastor

Only real issue is whether Rosie likes Alastor that much but considering he’s been loyal for like 90 years and Rosie herself has said she likes Alastor, she probably will uphold her end of the bargain
 
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Otherwise, I saw it too and it's a pretty compelling theory. I like it.
it’s honestly always going to be in Al’s favour
If Rosie calls off the deal and Charlie gets her powers he’ll use his deal to steal them, if Rosie doesn’t and Charlie doesn’t get her powers then he’s got dozens of other souls including husk to steal magic from until Charlie fully masters her powers
 
Man, I'm genuinely intrigued with what Alastor is up to. He is finally being mysterious without screaming "look how mysterious I am!". I can see why people say he became closer to his Pilot self now.
Charlie thinks that Alastor took the deal to save her reputation
Lucifer starts to feel envy and useless
Alastor manipulates Lucifer to do stuff
And bla
, in Episode 4 he made a deal with Vox so they are allowed to go, which hints to me that he does care about them. (And that honestly is a good direction for his character)
Alastor ain't that guy

Also, 8-A Mimzy?
 
After the latest episode Fraudstors reach a new level of fraudness that there's no coming back from~ Man's in suuuch insourmountable aura debt 😭
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PREACH!!! SPEAK YOUR TRUTH!!! SCREW THIS BUM!!!
 
Wanted to write a wall but then read the bottom.

I trust you.
Yeah, it was made by ME (in spirit)

Genuinely though, I like Alastor, but god damn is he a hypocite. I honestly like Vox more simply because his power feels way more earned. Alastor is genuinely a deep well of insecurity that can't help but deflect on Vox, and sadly the ragebait works on him.
 
Yep, still doesn't mean I'm not going to scale Vox to Weakened Alastor
I'm being honest, he genuinely does. Alastor was genuinely surprised that he couldn't use some of his powers against Vox, and spent most of the time running away. I'm not gonna say that he doesn't have something planned, but to say that he was still cooking them when weakened is kinda dumb as hell.
 
This deal stuff is getting weird. I went to check the wiki and it looks like that Viz stated that Rosie is 2 to 3 out of 10 in terms of power if you compare her to other overlords. So how the hell is she capable to make Alastor the strongest sinner if she is also a jobber?
A lot of the time, wish givers in fiction can provide powers beyond their means simply because a deal is give and take. Think like binding vows in JJK, characters can make deals that far exceed their power if they receive something in return.
 
I'm being honest, he genuinely does. Alastor was genuinely surprised that he couldn't use some of his powers against Vox, and spent most of the time running away. I'm not gonna say that he doesn't have something planned, but to say that he was still cooking them when weakened is kinda dumb as hell.
Alastor is still superior on 1v1 via being strongest Sinner though :>
 
A lot of the time, wish givers in fiction can provide powers beyond their means simply because a deal is give and take. Think like binding vows in JJK, characters can make deals that far exceed their power if they receive something in return.
But wouldn't it be funny if the deal is also a lie and Alastor won't end up as the strongest

(Also, that's not how binding vows work. But moving on, what I'm saying is, if even a weak overlord can make you the strongest with a simple deal, I imagine that the overlords would be capable to powercliffing without much problem)
 
But wouldn't it be funny if the deal is also a lie and Alastor won't end up as the strongest

(Also, that's not how binding vows work. But moving on, what I'm saying is, if even a weak overlord can make you the strongest with a simple deal, I imagine that the overlords would be capable to powercliffing without much problem)
Yeah I'm sure I messed up there, just saying that it is common for deals beyond characters means to function based off tradeoffs.

Personally, my theory is that Rosie is actually Eve in disguise, and the thing about Rosie's power could be a bit of a retcon.
 
I just think Rosie is a seriosly powerful demon and thats it, not Roo or Eve, until we have more proof of that (or confirmation)
 
I just think Rosie is a seriosly powerful demon and thats it, not Roo or Eve, until we have more proof of that (or confirmation)
Maybe, but it is out of left field to have just a generically powerful overlord be in control of one of the main characters, she's definitely planning something bigger than just having control of Hell

I think it's intentional for Alastor to be a hypocrite. While Vox tries to get power be making allies/friends, Alastor get power by manipulating people.

Vox doesn't mind if someone is on his side as long as he is on the top, while Alastor wants to be the only one at the top.
Yeah. They are both similar in the fact that they use people. Where they contrast is how they use them. Alastor is basically a dictator, controlling those under him as tools and nothing more. Vox is very much his cult leader persona, pulling people into his scheme, helping them up by stepping over others, just for him to step above them.
 
I think it's intentional for Alastor to be a hypocrite. While Vox tries to get power be making allies/friends, Alastor get power by manipulating people.

Vox doesn't mind if someone is on his side as long as he is on the top, while Alastor wants to be the only one at the top.
Ooo I like this comparison, pretty accurate ngl
 
That isn't fourth wall awareness.
The chat...of a interview, of a live stream television...THAT WAS NOT VISIBLE TO HER.
she was not supposed to even see the chat at all or read it.
people could see her and comment about her, but she could not see them or read the chat
 
The chat...of a interview, of a live stream television...THAT WAS NOT VISIBLE TO HER.
she was not supposed to even see the chat at all or read it.
people could see her and comment about her, but she could not see them or read the chat
That's still not 4th wall awareness, it's not like the chat to her is reality and she's fiction to it??
 
The chat...of a interview, of a live stream television...THAT WAS NOT VISIBLE TO HER.
she was not supposed to even see the chat at all or read it.
people could see her and comment about her, but she could not see them or read the chat
Yeah that's not fourth wall awareness. Fourth wall awareness would be interacting with people outside of the fiction. Charlie is not doing that.
 
That's still not 4th wall awareness, it's not like the chat to her is reality and she's fiction to it??
The chat is not supposed to be visible for her, again, she is not supposed to be able to see the chat at all.
it is a one way window, people can see her and comment, she is not supposed to see them.
 
Yeah that's not fourth wall awareness. Fourth wall awareness would be interacting with people outside of the fiction. Charlie is not doing that.
man, we gave Adam fourth wall awareness for making two stupid comments and looking at the camara, Charlie is literraly mentioning something she is not supposed to see since it is clearly, not a visible thing, even TV tropes commented on that:
 
The chat is not supposed to be visible for her, again, she is not supposed to be able to see the chat at all.
it is a one way window, people can see her and comment, she is not supposed to see them.
4th wall awareness is when the character is talking to US, the viewers


adam directly looks at us when making those jokes and references
 
man, we gave Adam fourth wall awareness for making two stupid comments and looking at the camara, Charlie is literraly mentioning something she is not supposed to see since it is clearly, not a visible thing, even TV tropes commented on that:
But the chat is fictional. She isn't interacting with our world at all.
 
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