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Beserk is peak and so will alastor trust fr (also you’ve been slightly overreacting, dude isn’t marionette)
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Hazbin Hotel Discussion Thread
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Nah, sorry, it’s like the FARTHEST away it can be from the truth. Black Gryph0n Alastor already neggs Season 2 Alastor, both in writing and fight.
And remind you that I probably glaze Alastor the most on this forum, so…
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Nuh uh (sarcasm doesn’t register to powerscalers I forgot)
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I thought you were serious because you were defending S2 Alastor before IIRC
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I said not to jump to quickly because we only have leaks to go off on. I myself have said I dislike the direction but it's not smart to make so many conclusions so early
Mythic381
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Yeah, it was confirmed it originally was Angel Dust and Vaggie, but I don't think it was at the time of the pilot though, since they pretty much didn't have that good of a relationship.
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Maybe they were supposed to undergo enemies to lovers trope?
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Is the note on the verse page really necessary?
It's quite old and I think anyone at this point would know that this verse has no correlation with Zoophobia.
Although it's pretty funny to call Alastor High Tier lol
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no?they were apparently lovers
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i do like the cartoon, and i feel like, if people didn't like something about a specific series, then they will not even do a page for the series in the first place.
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I have hope that someone on the writing team will grow a functioning brain stem and manage to take advantage of the great concept they have.
Also it has a few good songs and Keith David.
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I understand that nowadays things aren't like they used to be, that production has the possibility of having dozens of episodes per season, etc. The number of episodes is much smaller and there's still a chance of it being canceled.
But gosh, wasting all the interesting concepts introduced in the pilot right away like that? It's just annoying.
There's no room for discussion, and especially theories. For me, it's quite noticeable because I follow some guys who talk about HH and HB and basically since HH ended none of them have commented on anything. Because there really is nothing left to comment on, they basically used up everything at once (except for Lilith, but like, they would have to do some kind of cliffhanger)
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It comes naturally for me: I've been in this situation before...
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Bro, that is not the guy you're thinking of.
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Pretty sure that was in an earlier series with the same character names.
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I think I might be dying from a lack of sleep.
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Hazbin Hotel?
More like "Please Vivize actually focus on the Hotel, please we don't need a Heaven vs Hell conflict as the focal point, you got a killer premise for an episodic show, why are we jumping right ahead to a serialized story with barely any focus on the hotel?"
More like "Please Vivize actually focus on the Hotel, please we don't need a Heaven vs Hell conflict as the focal point, you got a killer premise for an episodic show, why are we jumping right ahead to a serialized story with barely any focus on the hotel?"
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i don't know where people get the idea that the show was going to be a episodic show?
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Sort of like what happened to Helluva Boss!
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At least...
Well I was gonna say they at least did a few episodes of the format, but the second ever episode was already a format break so
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I'm not saying they marketed it like that but God damn the concept of a hotel where sinners come to to try and get redemption seems perfect for that y'know?
Each episode can focus on a new sinner and a new moral dilemma, letting the characters and audience reflect on who deserves redemption while you can toss overarching plot stuff with Alastor in the backgrounds and do world-building through the rotation of the sinners and so on.
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I think that’s what it’s gonna end up going towards. Season one was establishing that it works, season 2 will start having people join.
Problem is that stories like that need more than 8 episodes a season to function well
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nah if a series never implies that idea then i will not take it.
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pretty much this, 8 episodes is a crime against animation
Mythic381
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Blame A24 and Amazon.
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I could curse them a thousand and one times
Mythic381
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That ain't giving you baseline multi buddy.
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don't care
MountainWine
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Just watched the show. Nice premise but terrible pacing and a lot of inconsistencies. The whole heaven vs hell thing was far too rushed. Enjoyable to some extent but overall very cringey. Hopefully the future seasons patch up the flaws of season 1.
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i don't understand the inconsistencies part, yes i understand the pacing (man shit is fast)but the show is not a whole heaven vs hell, it is just the hotel vs the extermination army.
Mythic381
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What inconsistencies are you referring to?
Can agree about the pacing part, but can't really blame Vivzie or the writers tbh.
MountainWine
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The consistencies mostly surround angels.
Vaggie not remembering that angel weapons can harm angels. There’s no mention of memory loss.
Tons of exterminations and thousands to perhaps millions of weapons made of angel steel left behind. Yet not a single murderous, psychopathic, blood thirsty demon ever tried to or manage to harm an angel with an angel weapon? Possible but highly unlikely.
Lute tearing her arm and Vaggie’s wings off with brute force. Highly likely some demons would’ve thought of such a method a long time ago.
I also find some of the characters their motivations and actions somewhat inconsistent. Seemingly popping in out of nowhere. However this can be attributed to the fact that there wasn’t enough time to build up the characters their actions and motivations.
I’m well aware there can be possible explanations for these instances. However anything not stated by the show is theory and unconfirmed reasoning. Like I said, perhaps season 2 can fix all this.
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because she didn't even know how can demons harm angels, like, she got her wings ripped out by hand
they are what you mention, but they are not that stupid.
except that lute is a angel, not a demon.
ok
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MountainWine
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Like I said, there could be some possible explanations for them. However none of those explanations actually cover anything. No offense dude, but I feel like you aren’t even trying to understand what you’re reading or you’re purposely glossing over info.
Angels were stated to be invincible. Vaggie was then harmed with angel steel. It’s weird she forgot about it. Her not knowing about it beforehand doesn’t change the fact she then gained knowledge that angel steel can harm angels via her eyes getting gouged out. I already mentioned her getting her wings ripped off by lute.
Never said the demons were stupid. Meant the opposite actually. Which begs the question. Why hasn’t a single demon manage to harm an angel with angel steel even after thousands of years. Whether through their own realization or desperation.
Never said Lute was a demon. I mentioned if Lute can tear off her own arm and Vaggie’s wings through brute force, many demons would be capable of the same and would’ve thought of tearing angels apart a long time ago. There’s no statement whatsoever that only angels can physically tear apart another angel. Yet not a single demon in their desperation has done so.
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yes, but Lute is also Angel, angels harming Angels seem to be the logic, not a angelic steel.
because no one tried?no one was going to actually try doing that, also not every demon has a angelic weapon.
except again, if they could do it, they will never have said that the angels are invincible.
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Saw a comment on TikTok that the biggest Hazbin Hotel haters are its fans.
So true, actually.
So true, actually.
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I watch Helluva Boss for the story.
MountainWine
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That was never stated. A contradiction to the “invincible angel” statement and an assumption on the fans part. It doesn’t change the fact that Vaggie had forgotten about it.
Not a single one of the millions of demons in their desperation tried in the thousands of years they’ve existed? Highly unlikely. Not all would possess weapons but a lot would. Considering the fact that there has been many exterminations with each ending in thousands of angel weapons being tossed away.
Again they aren’t invincible. Point is that Brute force being able to harm them was never stated and contradicts the invincible angel statement. The demons tearing angels apart is simply one of the many questions that would come up.
Again these explanation attempts are just guess work without a source to back up. Season 2 will have to fix them. Who knows, it might get even more inconsistent. Gonna stop here because this is just going in circles.
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