Hazbin Hotel Discussion Thread

[Anonymous_Learner]

Didn't Charlie and Emily also do it?

I think so, I loosely remember

Idk seems weird that Vox would be able to stop the exterminations with like mediocre prep time no?

True but I guess you can give it to at least Adam due to canonically having superior magic than Alastor's due to using angelic magic and being an angel of similar status to Emily and being vastly superior to her
Then again, it'd be hilarious if Vox got a dub over Adam but Alastor didn't

Jiren has resistance to EE for being unbeatable to Toppo

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I didn't know that, though he is also stated to surpass G.O.Ds so I guess it makes sense

Then again this is the verse where Vaggie lost her eye to an Angelic Weapon and somehow didn't know Angels could be harmed

I think Vivzie had some statement about that but I forgot

 

[DaReaperMan]

Didn't Charlie and Emily also do it?

Idk seems weird that Vox would be able to stop the exterminations with like mediocre prep time no?

It's also weird that the people repeatedly stated to be invulnerable turn out to be complete ******* chumps who can't do shit and can't even keep their invulnerability consistent.

 

[ShionAH]

It's also stated directly Angelic Magic has dominion over Demonic Magic.

Lowkey this got me thinking why they wouldn't resist rest of the haxes too...

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

It's also stated directly Angelic Magic has dominion over Demonic Magic.

Lowkey this got me thinking why they wouldn't resist rest of the haxes too...

Cherubs >>> 100% Vox, you hate to see it
Also WoG? For shame

 

[ShionAH]

I am gonna do something REAL bad if someone uses those three bums to downplay the Angels. Are demons not extra resiliant now because of ******' Imps??

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

I am gonna do something REAL bad if someone uses those three bums to downplay the Angels. Are demons not extra resiliant now because of ******' Imps??

Yes

 

[DaReaperMan]

Yes

I need you to edit your Charlie sandbox to include the low 5-B because I don't feel like using your statistics value on that. Also to get rid of that 500 ton value.

 

[ShionAH]

Yes

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

The question is about Lucifer vs. Alastor, if you don't wanna include the Cherubs it's only referring to Seraphims.

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

I need you to edit your Charlie sandbox to include the low 5-B because I don't feel like using your statistics value on that. Also to get rid of that 500 ton value.

Gotcha

 

[ShionAH]

if you don't wanna include the Cherubs it's only referring to Seraphims.

Or maybe... just maybe the demonic vs angelic comparison would apply to the Angels who actually fight and go against Hell? Not the random bums who work with humans?

Again are we gonna remove the resiliance stuff and more because of Imps or clearly use our logic to see they don't have it due to being weak

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Or maybe... just maybe the demonic vs angelic comparison would apply to the Angels who actually fight and go against Hell? Not the random bums who work with humans?

Again are we gonna remove the resiliance stuff and more because of Imps or clearly use our logic to see they don't have it due to being weak

The question is about Lucifer, he's not a fighter nor is going against Hell. Why would it only be referring to Exorcists lol

Also yeah remove the resilience thing, it's referring to the Sinner's immortality, why is that included in durability lol

 

[Alexander]

why would we put Imp under a special thing when they are the bottom of the barrel (not our IMP, our imp are like Ben Alien's, they are the peak of their own right)

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

why would we put Imp under a special thing when they are the bottom of the barrel (not our IMP, our imp are like Ben Alien's, they are the peak of their own right)

Sinsmas confirms that the hierarchy is just a social one, them being at the bottom means absolutely nothing.

 

[DarkLock92]

Sinsmas confirms that the hierarchy is just a social one, them being at the bottom means absolutely nothing.

When was that confirmed?
Either way Striker did say him and Blitzø were superior to most of their kind.

 

[DaReaperMan]

I threw up in my mouth a little

I had to edit the Helluva profiles.

 

[DarkLock92]

I threw up in my mouth a little

I had to edit the Helluva profiles.

You'll be aight

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

When was that confirmed?
Either way Striker did say him and Blitzø were superior to most of their kind.

Cause Striker is a reliable source lol
He straight up strangled Fizz when he suggested Blitz was "no better than any royal."
He's clearly referring to the fact that Blitz works for himself rather than being a subordinate when he says he's superior to the rest of Imps.

Also Hellhounds are even lower on the Hierarchy and regularly overpower Imps, this shit wasn't solid from the very first episodes.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Cause Striker is a reliable source lol
He straight up strangled Fizz when he suggested Blitz was "no better than any royal."
He's clearly referring to the fact that Blitz works for himself rather than being a subordinate when he says he's superior to the rest of Imps.

Also Hellhounds are even lower on the Hierarchy and regularly overpower Imps, this shit wasn't solid from the very first episodes.

Eden

I beg of you

Make a CRT to kill all scaling the Goetia have to overlords via magic. Those bums get FTL and nothing else.

 

[ShionAH]

Wait does ts scale to the Sins?

 

[DaReaperMan]

Wait does ts scale to the Sins?

Already done with their edits, just waiting for Emily to get made to hit enter on them. I winced seeing their scaling but reminded myself that those ******* do nothing anyways lol

 

[DarkLock92]

Cause Striker is a reliable source lol
He straight up strangled Fizz when he suggested Blitz was "no better than any royal."
He's clearly referring to the fact that Blitz works for himself rather than being a subordinate when he says he's superior to the rest of Imps.

I mean Striker is a hybrid right? Plus Millie can fight off large groups of hellborns by herself, and Blitzø can easily tank her hits and fought her with little difficulty in their flashback.

Also Hellhounds are even lower on the Hierarchy and regularly overpower Imps, this shit wasn't solid from the very first episodes.

If you're talking about Loona, I genuinely think she's built different, because she obviously has more training than your average hellhound.

But tbh I do think that the hierarchy is a mix of social status and power, like the average hellhound is weaker than the average imp, the average overlord is weaker than the average Goetia etc

 

[DarkLock92]

I mean Striker is a hybrid right? Plus Millie can fight off large groups of hellborns by herself, and Blitzø can easily tank her hits and fought her with little difficulty in their flashback.

Found the source

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

I need you to edit your Charlie sandbox to include the low 5-B because I don't feel like using your statistics value on that. Also to get rid of that 500 ton value.

It's been done (and Emily has been made)

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Emily (Hazbin Hotel)

Emily is a Seraphim Angel and a major supporting character in Hazbin Hotel, standing as Charlie Morningstar's contact to Heaven throughout the second season and saving Pentagram City at the end of it. Tier: Low 5-B, possibly 5-B Unknown with creation Name: Emily Origin: Hazbin Hotel Gender...

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[Mythic381]

Sinsmas confirms that the hierarchy is just a social one, them being at the bottom means absolutely nothing.

Same episode is literally filled with Andrealphus making fun of I.M.P for thinking "Imps" stand a chance against a Goetia, and Blitzo outright says it'll be a bad look for him when Stella finds out he lost to a bunch of Imps and a Hellhound. (He didn't actually lose to them anyways, only stopped by Via)

I don't see where it is made anywhere in the episode that is it merely a social hierarchy?

 

[DaReaperMan]

It's been done (and Emily has been made)

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Emily (Hazbin Hotel)

Emily is a Seraphim Angel and a major supporting character in Hazbin Hotel, standing as Charlie Morningstar's contact to Heaven throughout the second season and saving Pentagram City at the end of it. Tier: Low 5-B, possibly 5-B Unknown with creation Name: Emily Origin: Hazbin Hotel Gender...

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Gonna be removing the Far Higher, since as far as we know this is their peak, not exact a casual feat from them, y'know?

 

[Alexander]

Gonna be removing the Far Higher, since as far as we know this is their peak, not exact a casual feat from them, y'know?

where are we using the "realms" thing?

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

I mean Striker is a hybrid right? Plus Millie can fight off large groups of hellborns by herself, and Blitzø can easily tank her hits and fought her with little difficulty in their flashback.

Millie's a farmgirl trope, that's why she's ultra competent with manual tasks, and she's definitely stronger than Blitz considering what she did to the Rolando possessed one.

Also you can't tell me it isn't referring to the whole Blitz making his own business thing, when their first interaction has Striker talking about how "Not many Imps start businesses on their own, that's pretty impressive, sir."

If you're talking about Loona, I genuinely think she's built different, because she obviously has more training than your average hellhound.

But tbh I do think that the hierarchy is a mix of social status and power, like the average hellhound is weaker than the average imp, the average overlord is weaker than the average Goetia etc

Also maybe the fact the higher ones in the hierarchy are straight-up immortal. That probably plays a big part.

 

[Mythic381]

Speed: FTL (Comparable to Emily, whom could react to, and with flight outspeed the Might of Lilith's beam.)

Did I miss something in the CRT???

 

[ShionAH]

I laughed out loud at Blitz making a joke, all three laughing and cutting back to the seriousness.

Man the show was so good, how did it go down such fall off…

 

[DaReaperMan]

Did I miss something in the CRT???

Oh yeah baby it included FTL speed. Your welcome~

 

[Mythic381]

Oh yeah baby it included FTL speed.

Probably should've specified what I meant. Why does I.M.P have that rating?

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Same episode is literally filled with Andrealphus making fun of I.M.P for thinking "Imps" stand a chance against a Goetia, and Blitzo outright says it'll be a bad look for him when Stella finds out he lost to a bunch of Imps and a Hellhound. (He didn't actually lose to them anyways, only stopped by Via)

He's immortal, they cannot actually do anything to him.
Also a royalty getting folded by people at the bottom of the hierarchy is still going to be a bad look, even if said hierarchy is a social one.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Probably should've specified what I meant. Why does I.M.P have that rating?

There is no difference in speed between damn near literally everyone else and Imps.

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Eden

I beg of you

Make a CRT to kill all scaling the Goetia have to overlords via magic. Those bums get FTL and nothing else.

Alas I've only seen Helluva Manager rn, so it's gonna take a while.

 

[ShionAH]

Probably should've specified what I meant. Why does I.M.P have that rating?

Striker could catch STOLAS MID AIR

 

[Alexander]

Striker could catch STOLAS MID AIR

FTL IMP

 

[DarkLock92]

Millie's a farmgirl trope, that's why she's ultra competent with manual tasks, and she's definitely stronger than Blitz considering what she did to the Rolando possessed one.

I mean Blitz was mostly fine afterwards, plus Millie was confident he could handle that beating. Also Blitzø can actually go toe to toe with Striker for a decent bit while Millie is 0-2 against him. And again Blitzø wasn't really breaking a sweat in their flashback fight, though you could say neither were fully serious.

Also you can't tell me it isn't referring to the whole Blitz making his own business thing, when their first interaction has Striker talking about how "Not many Imps start businesses on their own, that's pretty impressive, sir."

Could be but Striker is also said to be a supremacist.

Touché but honestly Vortex also looks built different. I mean most other hellhounds are like domestic dogs

Also maybe the fact the higher ones in the hierarchy are straight-up immortal. That probably plays a big part.

Definitely

 

[Mythic381]

He's immortal, they cannot actually do anything to him.

They quite literally stole weapons from him. Yes they ******* could.

Also a royalty getting folded by people at the bottom of the hierarchy is still going to be a bad look, even if said hierarchy is a social one.

He wasn't even losing. He only got damaged by Stolas and bitten by Loona, but that doesn't go against Goetias scaling higher magic-wise, as why would magic users be physically stronger if the higher power is established to be via them being "magic users."

Striker could catch STOLAS MID AIR

If we established that Goetias only scale higher via magic, why would we accept they scale to their speeds?

 

[DaReaperMan]

Alas I've only seen Helluva Manager rn, so it's gonna take a while.

Kk, also, you can edit Shok.wav's tiering/Combat speed and release it now