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Hax & Resistances Additions For All Dragon Ball Characters:

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Dragon Ball Z - Ki Explained
Dragon Ball Z - Ki Explained

So I was watching a Dragon Ball expert Greekdom101's video where he was talking about the concept of Ki from Dragon Ball and what it does. What I learn from watching his video is that Ki from Dragon Ball verse is a similar concept to real life martial arts, where having higher amount of Ki than your opponent, makes you more powerful and durable than your opponent in three different ways.

Ki is made out of three parts:

Genki (Õàâµ░ù lit. "Vigor")

Yüki (Õïçµ░ù lit. "Courage")

Shōki (µ¡úµ░ù lit. "Mind")

Vigor which translates to having more physical strength, courage which translates to having more spiritual strength, and mind which translates to having more mental strength. To summarize what I just said regarding to these three parts, Ki is a combination of spiritual, physical, and mental energy.

What do real life martial artists do when they train themselves? They must learn to move their body to learn to take punishing blows from their opponents so they don't physical hurt them anymore. At least the same time they must mental learn to prepare their minds, so they can ready themselves to counter their opponents and read their movements. If their mind is not one with their body, they won't be able to understand their surroundings and would blank out. Where does the spiritual energy comes from? The inner will to never give up and fight back against their opponents no matter what the cost is even if the odds are against them or something that happened in their life that can hurt them spiritually.

Dragon Ball characters are like that, the higher the Ki, the more mental barrier against mind manipulation, the more physical resistances and punishment you can dish out, the more will you'll experience to fight back against your opponents so that nothing can hurt your soul.

In conclusion, while everyone single Dragon Ball characters have Superhuman Physical Characteristics mentioned in their profiles, they should also have hax & resistances to Soul Manipulation and Mind Manipulation abilities mentioned in their profiles as well.
 
Not to be a pessimist but the people of this site will never accept this. I mean, even though a literal component of strengthening one's Ki is to fortify your mind...
 
Most of the shit in this video is pure headcanon. Mindhax can easily be debunked because Vegeta had to struggle in order to fight Babidi's mindhax. Soul manipulation simply has no evidence to back it up.
 
ChocomilkAlex said:
Most of the shit in this video is pure headcanon. Mindhax can easily be debunked because Vegeta had to struggle in order to fight Babidi's mindhax. Soul manipulation simply has no evidence to back it up.
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1. Goku's spirit bomb.

2. Aura released from Ki.

3. Ki based attacks.

4. Transformation and power-up takes a toll on the fighter's spirit.

5. Ki itself being a life energy, so it must be spiritual in nature by default.
 
1. If anything, only works against evil beings iirc

2. Aura =/= Soul

3. Doesnt prove anything unless you are saying that every ki attack is soul manip, which is still wrong

4. What those have to do with soulhax?

5. Now thats headcanon
 
"1. If anything, only works against evil beings"

Have been disproven numerous times and multiple times when it's reflected, would've killed Goku.

"2. Aura =/= Soul"

I think he means Aura = Life and Life in general has strong ties or literally is one's soul.

"4. What those have to do with soulhax?"

It's relating to one's soul. If attacks and stuff that use Ki actually harms the soul when used, we know Ki has an adverse effect on the Soul.

"5. Now thats headcanon"

Ki isn't... Spiritual? Wot?
 
Oblivion Of The Endless said:
1. If anything, only works against evil beings

Goku tried that on Jiren.

2. Aura =/= Soul

Aura is the manifestation of Ki.

3. Doesnt prove anything unless you are saying that every ki attack is soul manip

Ki contains life energy which is both physical, spiritual, and mental in nature.

4. What those have to do with soulhax?

Goku's soul almost disappeared from him transforming into Super Saiyan 3 third time.

5. Now thats headcanon

So life energy isn't spiritual, okay.
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Oblivion Of The Endless said:
Life energy isnt automatically Soul related

Not even close to it
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If life energy isn't spiritual, physical, or mental in nature, then what is it? What makes up a life?
 
Lord Ace900 said:
Didnt Frieza get stronger just training Mentally and was just a soul
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You forgot to mention Zamasu switching bodies with Goku counts as well. Don't forget Ginyu switches bodies with Goku as well.
 
Oblivion Of The Endless said:
Depends, does they ever mentioned if its related to soul?
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Yes, couple of times, with episode 129 of Dragon Ball being one of them, where Goku was learning the concept of Ki from Mutaito.
 
You forgot to mention Zamasu switching bodies with Goku counts as well. Don't forget Recoome switches bodies with Goku as well.

Zamasu switching bodies had nothing to do with Soulhax.
 
ChocomilkAlex said:
You forgot to mention Zamasu switching bodies with Goku counts as well. Don't forget Recoome switches bodies with Goku as well.
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Zamasu switching bodies had nothing to do with Soulhax.

How is switching bodies with someone else is not considered soulhax when your soul is literally moving from one body to another?
 
The Calaca said:
Are you seriously using this amount of headcanon to argue something that it's not implied outside of vague terms?
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Ki is made out of three parts:

Genki (Õàâµ░ù lit. "Vigor")

Yüki (Õïçµ░ù lit. "Courage")

Shōki (µ¡úµ░ù lit. "Mind")

You mean this? Toriyama's description of Ki component is considered vague terms?
 
Can you please show me the scans where it's depicted that way? AFAIR the only instance where Ki was remotely explained was when Gohan taught Videl how to fly and he said that Ki is a force inside of every living organism.
 
You forgot to mention Zamasu switching bodies with Goku counts as well. Don't forget Recoome switches bodies with Goku as well.
Zamasu switching bodies had nothing to do with Soulhax.

How is switching bodies with someone else is not considered soulhax when your soul is literally moving from one body to another?

Maybe because you're using it as a means of justifying passive soulhax resistance when no character in Dragonball can resist such a thing.
 
Akreious said:
Didn't Krillin and Gohan mentally train and fight while on the trip to Namek as well to get stronger?
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Yes, there are more example of Dragon Ball characters using their minds.

1) Piccolo lifting pyramids with his mind.

2) Jiren meditating and repeling attacks with his mind.

3) Goku telepathically communicating with others.

4) Frieza's mental training in Hell.

5) Future Trunks' image training.

6) Shin restraining Gohan.

7) Ki sensing ability.

8) Cell building his tournament arena with nothing other then his head.

Mind manipulation doesn't nesassary mean you have to mindhax other people, it's what you actually do with your mind that matters.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Mind_Manipulation
 
Yes, there are more example of Dragon Ball characters using their minds.

1) Piccolo lifting pyramids with his mind.

2) Jiren meditating and repeling attacks with his mind.

3) Goku telepathically communicating with others.

4) Frieza's mental training in Hell.

5) Future Trunks' image training.

6) Shin restraining Gohan.

7) Ki sensing ability.

8) Cell building his tournament arena with nothing other then his head.

Mind manipulation doesn't nesassary mean you have to mindhax other people, it's what you actually do with your mind that matters.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Mind_Manipulation

MINDHAX LITERALLY MEANS THE ABILITY TO CONTROL OTHER PEOPLES MIND WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT IT DOESNT MEAN YOU HAVE TO MINDHAX OTHER PEOPLE
 
Sorry but I don't agree with this, it's way to vague and if every single DB have resistance to soul and mind manip, then Goku should have resisted Ginyu's swap and Vegeta should have no problem with Babidi's mind control
 
Also if we assume that Vegeta has mind resistance, wouldn't that mean that Babidi can penetrate mind resistances due to dominating Vegeta's mind that also has mind resistance due to headcannon? Just No.
 
Telekinesis =/= Mind Hax.

Telepathy =/= Mind Hax.

Mental training =/= Mind Hax.

Paralysis Inducement (using TWO HANDS) =/= Mind Hax.

Extrasensory Perception =/= Mind Hax.

It's even less of an argument to prove resistance.
 
MrDrProfessorPatricio said:
Also if we assume that Vegeta has mind resistance, wouldn't that mean that Babidi can penetrate mind resistances due to dominating Vegeta's mind that also has mind resistance due to headcannon? Just No.
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Vegeta gained his Mindhax resistance by resisting Babidi's magic.
 
MrDrProfessorPatricio said:
Also if we assume that Vegeta has mind resistance, wouldn't that mean that Babidi can penetrate mind resistances due to dominating Vegeta's mind that also has mind resistance due to headcannon? Just No.
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Babidi uses magic to highjack into Vegeta's mind not ki. Ki =/= Magic.
 
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