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No he won't since he won't be able to manipulate chakra like Hashi can.
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Hashirama Senju vs Harlequin (King) [Naruto vs NNT]
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king will literally destroy wood via water manipulation and naruto wood = water/earth
https://gyazo.com/b32daf506476d4e0f5c5cbd36665e4b0
https://gyazo.com/b32daf506476d4e0f5c5cbd36665e4b0
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Hashi manipulates the wood via chakra, so no he doesn't control it.
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thats my point while king can manipulate it via magic and control it lmao... makes this a easy ass fight
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didnt king control wood from far distance vs zeldris? also hashi gotta attack him somehow so when the wood is close by its easy manipulaiton ... just take the L
Arkenis
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idk I didn't read all of sds. Yea my point is that if King cannot control large amounts of water or wood then he gets overwhelmed.
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And I'm saying he won't take control from Hashi, and it is an easy fight, Hashi wins.
PrinceofPein
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And both of them can control said plants and wood so yes it comes down to the person with the higher LS and it’s obviously hashirama class T
So hashi still negs with wood release
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question why does it come down to LS? king has manipulation while hashirama can just emit... this isnt even a fight
Arkenis
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if both control it then whoever has the stronger control wins.
PrinceofPein
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No hashirama also controls where did you see hashirama doesn’t control??
Him moving his wood about and rolling them up and trying to capture people or beasts is what??
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that comes down to who has better manipulation of said element.. Trust me i know hashi is stronger thats fine... but his control over wood/plant is nothing to king
PrinceofPein
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I don’t really care, I am just addressing you saying king will manipulate the woods of hashirama
That’s utterly wrong that’s all
Anyway this should be closed as it is a stomp hashi only Arsenal is wood and you can’t restrict it so either way it is a stomp
speedster352
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Nah we should wait until the op changes it to full wings king vs sage hashirama
Arkenis
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Hashirama is large country lvl in sage mode so it still becomes a stomps.
speedster352
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Not sage mode then
Arkenis
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then we're giving king an ap advantage. he'd destroy has his wood, his main source of attack. this goes into stomp or mismatch either you try it.
speedster352
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So then should the op do?
Jibz
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This feels like a horrible mismatch. I do have a question though. I thought Hashirama merely created the wood and was able to move it around. Is he able to affect the strength, density, age etc of the wood assuming King can because thats what Disaster sounds like from a glance.
I agree with speedster we should switch out King with another NNT character if this is truly going to be Naruto v NNT and close this thread
I agree with speedster we should switch out King with another NNT character if this is truly going to be Naruto v NNT and close this thread
Jibz
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No, but he should be able to read Hashirama's mind prior to the attack and then nullify the potency of it with Disaster. And Hashirama even using the move is dependant on Hashirama getting close enough to use it.
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speedster352
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King can neutralize it with disaster since it's a gas
Arkenis
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Hashirama can change the density and strength but it's usually dependent on the Jutsu he's using. But regardless of his ways of controlling it, his overall control is greater via lifting strength. I've asked before but Hashirama controls mountains of wood at a time, creating large hand wood structures to dragons that can wrap around bijus and ofc his golem. So even if king has control over life to say he'd have control over such large amounts of wood would need to be shown.
speedster352
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Maybe gloxinia
Jibz
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Its alright. The greatest part of any debate is the discussion. And this was a very interesting one
Arkenis
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looking at his page it seems like he outhaxes Hashirama even if u made it edo Hashirama.
speedster352
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What do you mean?
Arkenis
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he has abilities that Hashirama just has zero counters to even in edo or alive. like gloxinia has soul bfr and edos whole thing is that the soul is bound to the body so idk seems like a rather hax stomp. he can also destroy souls.
speedster352
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Maybe another NNT character would be fine like Zeldris or Meliodas
