Hammering out the specifics of upgrading Madara, Naruto, and Sasuke to Moon level

[Antvasima]

Given that the issues of the last thread regarding the upgrades have been settled, and the thread turned far too long, and veered off topic from the relevant questions regarding the upgrades that I brought up, I closed it to streamline the questions into this thread instead.

Basically, we agreed to upgrade all 3 of them to Moon level, but do not know how specifically their profiles should be changed?

Madara's profile has the following key:

"Prime Madara | Edo Madara | Revived Madara with Sage Mode | Six Paths Sage Madara | Six Paths Sage Madara (with Shinju absorbed and dual Rinnegan and Rinne Sharingan)"

I have already upgraded the last two states to "Moon level", and "At least Moon level" respectively in destructive capacity. The question is whether we should upgrade his durability as well, given that Might Guy managed to severely injure him?

Similarly, Naruto has the following key:

"Base | Sage Mode | Tailed Beast Transformations | Nine-Tails Chakra Mode/Kurama Chakra Mode| Bijuu Mode | Sage Bijuu Mode | Six Paths Sage Mode | Six Path Sage Tailed Beast Mode | 100% Kurama Bijuu Sage Mode"

Given that I don't remember the specifics well, which of these forms should be upgraded, and by how much? Also, how should the durability levels be affected?

And Sasuke has this key. In this case I think that only the last three or two would be affected, but the last question still applies:

"Start | Post-Chunin Exams | Shippuden Start | Hebi Sasuke| Taka Sasuke| EMS Sasuke | Rinnegan Sasuke | Six Paths Susanoo"

Take note that everybody should focus on these issues only, or posts will be deleted, and blocks might be handed out.

 

[TripleX6]

So you're just guessing that they are moon level once powered up?


....k then.

Although I do think Naruto should be, but not Sasuke and Madara.

 

[CHILLVIBEZZ]

Naruto"s Six paths sage mode and his Six path sage tailed beast mode.The last one is from Naruto the last who uses a weaker mode.

Sasuke is the last 2 modes though.

Madaras durability: At least Moon level in his final form(Should be as strong as non jinchuriki Hagoromo)

Durability for Naruto and Sasuke : Moon level.

 

[UncleSpaceman]

Antvasima

For Naruto,

• Six Paths Sage Mode should be Moon Level via power-scaling from Madara & Hagoromo

• Six Path Sage Tailed Beast Mode should be at least Moon Level (after receiving additional power-ups)

For Sasuke,

• Rinnegan Sasuke should be Moon Level via power-scaling from Madara & Hagoromo

• Six Paths Susanoo should be at least Moon Level (after receiving additional power-ups)

For Madara,

• Might Guy's kick packed an enormous punch, it warped space.

 

[Antvasima]

Don't forget about evaluating the durability statistics as well.

 

[Antvasima]

Also, which form did Naruto use to defeat Toneri?

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

durabilty should be At least High 6-A for Naruto and Sasuke, and Possibly moon level for Madara

 

[KyofuSama93]

The Last Naruto should be High 6-A' and possibly 5-C '(durability), since he wasn't using his full power.

Naruto SO6P 5-C and EOS Naruto too.

 

[CHILLVIBEZZ]

Hmm.

 

[UncleSpaceman]

Antvasima

Gai's kick warped space, so it most likely ignored conventional durability

For Naruto

• Six Paths Sage Mode Durability: Moon Level via power-scaling from Madara & Hagoromo, also tanking attacks from Kaguya

• Six Paths Sage Tailed Best Mode: At least Moon Level, after recieving aditional power-ups & tanking the clash of Indras Arrow & TSBRS

For Sasuke

• Rinnegan Sasuke Durability: Moon Level via power-scaling from Madara & Hagoromo, also tanking attacks from Kaguya

• Six Paths Susanoo Durability: At least Moon Level, after recieving aditional power-ups & tanking the clash of Indras Arrow & TSBRS

Naruto used Kurama Chakra Sage Mode to fight Toneri

Also, people, this thread is for discussing how to apply the Moon Level upgrades, please stay civil and don't go off topic.

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

Also, which form did Naruto use to defeat Toneri?

If i am not mistaken he only used nine tails chakra mode or bijuu mode cause he was fighting full power Toneri at 50% or less thx to kurama leaving his body so it should be those modes only unless I am wrong

 

[CHILLVIBEZZ]

Also, which form did Naruto use to defeat Toneri?

Kurama chakra sage mode was used against Toneri he released Kurama but had borrowed his chakra

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

Lol @chill we posted it at the same time for Ant and we gave the same answers

 

[CHILLVIBEZZ]

Lol @chill we posted it at the same time for Ant and we gave the same answers

Lol i know but you said or bijuu mode while its impossible he could use it when he released kyuubi.

 

[Non-Bias]

Let's see...

Madara's durability should at least be Multi Continent Level+ - Moon Level on account every top tier in Naruto can withstand their own attacks if you ask me. That's just an opinion though.

Naruto and Sasuke weren't 50 times weaker than Madara as seen by portrayals and they acquired more power EOS and got stronger in the movies. They should be Moon Level in my opinion because of that. Their durability should equally be as high.

 

[Non-Bias]

@UncleSpacema CHILLVIBEZZ: Check this out. The light novels are confirmed to be continuations of the Naruto storyline. Are there any feats that you can think for Naruto and Sasuke?

 

[CHILLVIBEZZ]

Not sure but I'm about to post a Naruto the last revision speed calc it should bump his speed to the sub relativistic to relativistic range from what I can tell.

 

[KamiYasha]

The big issue here is Madara's Durability:

For Madara:

• Six Paths Sage Madara Should be Continent level (survived Might Guy's Night Guy)
• Six Paths Sage Madara (with Shinju absorbed and dual Rinnegan and Rinne Sharingan) At least Multi-Continent level+ to Moon level via power-scaling

For Naruto:

• Six Paths Sage Mode should be Moon Level via power-scaling from Madara & Hagoromo
• Six Path Sage Tailed Beast Mode should be at least Moon Level (after receiving additional power-ups)
• Durability: Moon level | At least Moon level

For Sasuke,

• Rinnegan Sasuke should be Moon Level via power-scaling from Madara & Hagoromo
• Six Paths Susanoo should be at least Moon Level (after receiving additional power-ups)
• Durability: Moon level | At least Moon level

Too much Moon level Lol

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

Lol @chill we posted it at the same time for Ant and we gave the same answers

Lol i know but you said or bijuu mode while its impossible he could use it when he released kyuubi.

True and I feel the Naruto's God tiers should be Moon level+

 

[Non-Bias]

The big issue here is Madara's Durability:
For Madara:

• Six Paths Sage Madara Should be Continent level (survived Might Guy's Night Guy)
• Six Paths Sage Madara (with Shinju absorbed and dual Rinnegan and Rinne Sharingan) At least Multi-Continent level+ to Moon level via power-scaling

For Naruto:

• Six Paths Sage Mode should be Moon Level via power-scaling from Madara & Hagoromo
• Six Path Sage Tailed Beast Mode should be at least Moon Level (after receiving additional power-ups)
• Durability: Moon level | At least Moon level

For Sasuke,

• Rinnegan Sasuke should be Moon Level via power-scaling from Madara & Hagoromo
• Six Paths Susanoo should be at least Moon Level (after receiving additional power-ups)
• Durability: Moon level | At least Moon level

Too much Moon level Lol

Your list looks perfect in my opinion

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

The big issue here is Madara's Durability:
For Madara:

• Six Paths Sage Madara Should be Continent level (survived Might Guy's Night Guy)
• Six Paths Sage Madara (with Shinju absorbed and dual Rinnegan and Rinne Sharingan) At least Multi-Continent level+ to Moon level via power-scaling

For Naruto:

• Six Paths Sage Mode should be Moon Level via power-scaling from Madara & Hagoromo
• Six Path Sage Tailed Beast Mode should be at least Moon Level (after receiving additional power-ups)
• Durability: Moon level | At least Moon level

For Sasuke,

• Rinnegan Sasuke should be Moon Level via power-scaling from Madara & Hagoromo
• Six Paths Susanoo should be at least Moon Level (after receiving additional power-ups)
• Durability: Moon level | At least Moon level

Too much Moon level Lol

Your list looks perfect in my opinion

It really looks nice

 

[UncleSpaceman]

I second that ^

Except,

Single Rinnegan Madara is close to Hagoromo's power. Ergo, Single Rinnegan Madara is not 50x weaker than Hagoromo, so Single Rinnegan Madara should be Moon Level

Final Form Madara should be at least Moon Level, after receiving aditional power-ups

About Gai's kick, it warped space, so it most likely ignored durability.

 

[KamiYasha]

I second that ^
Except, Six Paths Sage Madara was stated to be close to Hagoromo's power, ergo, he is not 50x weaker than Hagoromo, so he should be Moon Level. About Gai's kick, it warped space, so it most likely ignored durability.

Yeah, but this is only madara durability his AP/DC has already been upgraded.

I wouldn't consider warp space as ignoring durability.

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

Hmmm... I guess it looked like it ignore Madara's durability completely

 

[KamiYasha]

As far as I know.. No, it just was pure strength due to the speed.

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

Ok I really can't tell but it is 100% about to kill Madara but he barely survived

 

[UncleSpaceman]

KamiYasha

Gai's kick distorted space. The actual kick did not pierce Madara, infact it broke Gai's leg, showing that the forward momentum of Gai's kick stopped . Madara was then hit with a spacial distortion where Gai kicked, resulting in half of Madara's chest being distored into oblivio.

His durability in Final Form is most definitely Moon Level though

 

[KamiYasha]

Again, it just looks like was pure strength due to the speed.

Either way, sasuke wouldn't sliced in half so easily Madara (1 rinnegan)

 

[UncleSpaceman]

True

 

[Gwynbleiddd]

The big issue here is Madara's Durability:
For Madara:

• Six Paths Sage Madara Should be Continent level (survived Might Guy's Night Guy)
• Six Paths Sage Madara (with Shinju absorbed and dual Rinnegan and Rinne Sharingan) At least Multi-Continent level+ to Moon level via power-scaling

For Naruto:

• Six Paths Sage Mode should be Moon Level via power-scaling from Madara & Hagoromo
• Six Path Sage Tailed Beast Mode should be at least Moon Level (after receiving additional power-ups)
• Durability: Moon level | At least Moon level

For Sasuke,

• Rinnegan Sasuke should be Moon Level via power-scaling from Madara & Hagoromo
• Six Paths Susanoo should be at least Moon Level (after receiving additional power-ups)
• Durability: Moon level | At least Moon level

Too much Moon level Lol

Six paths madara should be continent level for surviving naruto's lava rasen shuriken ,Night Guy is scaled from the lava RasenShuriken for doing more damage to madara.

 

[Sheoth]

I will be overseeing these upgrades for the time being.

Now, since I am a little rusty on my naruto, someone kindly tell me the specific upgrades that are agreed upon and the ones that are disputed...

 

[Gwynbleiddd]

I think most people agree with madara's upgrade ,i have no idea about the rest (was not paying attention to the thread).

 

[UncleSpaceman]

The big issue here is Madara's Durability:

For Madara:

Sheoth

The above quote is the conclusion this thread has reached. In a different thread , it was agreed that Naruto & Sasuke are Moon Level. This thread was made to determine which states of Naruto & Sasuke are Moon Level. This thread was also made to determine Madara's durability.

Note: Madara's AP was already decided to be Moon Level, the above stats for Madara are his durability.

 

[Sheoth]

@UncleSpaceman: + @KamiYasha:

Thank you for that

I am fine with what KamiYasha suggested as it seems to be the most accurate.

Just to clarify, madara is going to be 5-C as well, yes?

 

[CHILLVIBEZZ]

@UncleSpaceman: + @KamiYasha:
Thank you for that

I am fine with what KamiYasha suggested as it seems to be the most accurate.

Just to clarify, madara is going to be 5-C as well, yes?

I believe he already is this is just about his durability apparently.

 

[KamiYasha]

^ Exactly.

 

[UncleSpaceman]

Sheoth

Yes, Madara is 5-C as well

Single Rinnegan Madara

• Attack Potency: Moon Level

• Durability: Continent Level

Final Form Madara

• Attack Potency: At least Moon Level

• Durability: At least Multi-Continent level+ to Moon Level

 

[Sheoth]

Ok then.

@KamiYasha:

Since I can't really edit right now, I will rely on you to do so due to your knowledge on the topic and because of your moderator status.

If any pages need unlocking, kindly inform me here.

 

[KamiYasha]

Alright, no problem. I can do it.

Also if you want, i can upgrade Naruto and Sasuke as well.

 

[Sheoth]

Please do.