GURPS High 1-C upgrade

[ZacharyGrossman273]

"All of Infinity's theories rest on Van Zandt's original notion of an 8- dimensional superspace containing a single quantum "axis" and many, many worlds. However, this may just be "locally true," like Newtonian physics. The topology of reality quakes (box, p. 75) presumes a 9-dimen- sional matrix, for example; the astral plane of the Cabalists (p. 68) also somehow exists "outside" conventional 8-space"

-GURPS infinite worlds

Now

the Material at the center, the Astral "above" or "outside" that, the Iconic Realm higher still, and the ineffable reaches of Atziluth in the "highest" sphere.

-GURPS cabal

So basically, physical multiverse = 8-D (super space, and the 9-D stuff transcends 8-D stuff so it's likely dimensional tiering applies), spiritual realm of cabal = 9-D, Iconic realm = 10-D, Atziluth = 11D

Furthermore

Those who have returned from Atziluth describe it, halt- ingly, as perfection. The most common images involve gold- en sunlight, an endless glowing whiteness, a serried row of hypergeometrical forms, or a smooth green meadow stretch- ing to infinity. In Atziluth dwells the Uncreated Source, the Prime Mover, the First Being ― in short, God

-GURPS cabal

The hax upgrades come later

 

[Wokistan]

You can't do this during the forum move...

 

[Antvasima]

I was asked to reopen this. The discussion should only be carried out if it is simple and straightforward to handle though.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/496000114024906754/709053998619164732/image0.png

Ultima said this is fine on Discord

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:ZacharyGrossman273/Stuff?useskin=oasis

This is my proposal for a new profile, is it fine?

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

http://gurpswiki.wikidot.com/ind:spells-by-college

 

[Antvasima]

I am likely the wrong person to ask. Are any other members knowledgeable about this verse?

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Ogbundali is the only one I know of.

 

[Ogbunabali]

We've been over this on discord, so I'm ok with it.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Thank you for the input.

Feel free to ask some other staff members in order to make certain.

 

[Elizhaa]

The proposal looks fine, from what I read.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Okay so

1) Can my proposal for the new profile be applied?

2) Can the page be renamed God (GURPS) since they're supposed to be all capitalized

 

[Antvasima]

Well, since 3 staff members agree, I suppose that it is probably fine.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Okay. Good.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

So can someone unlock it?

 

[Antvasima]

Which pages do I need to unlock? Only God (GURPs)?

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

I think so.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Tell me here when you are done with the edits and uploads.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Can you rename it to GURPS having all capital letters

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Acrually. The mundane and Archdean would be effected since she's an angel and he can effect her

 

[Ogbunabali]

Acrually. The mundane and Archdean would be effected since she's an angel and he can effect her

The dean can also be a demon, or something else, or just a powerful mage. It's up to the DM to decide whether it's an angel or not, so it shouldn't scale.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

So only explicitly angels would scale?

Edit: technically high ranking mages can reality warp Atziluh to some degree

 

[Ogbunabali]

Well only things that we can solidly determine what they are. The dean is intentionally left ambiguous whether she's an angel or not, and left at the DM's discretion. We can't give guesswork statistics.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Awww I wanted the mundane's has to be High 1-C

I geuss so.

So most gods = 10-D, abrahamic angels and archangels = 11-D, high ranking mages = 3-D Sith 11-D magic

What would demons be

 

[Ogbunabali]

Why would high ranking mages be 11D magic again?

Demons vary way too much, they'd have go by individual feats. There are fodder demons and then there is a demon that's the size of the Abyss.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

To become a Grand Master, a Cabalist must enter Atziluth (see p. 54). When they emerge, Grand Masters often possess a certain overwhelming force of personality, a kind of domi- nant presence that few lesser beings can withstand. Even arro- gant magi or ancient vampire lords have been known to fall into sullen silence at a Grand Master's glare; within the Inner Realms, only the Archangels and the most powerful eikones treat them as inferiors. As the final authorities within the Cabal, the Grand Masters hold the world in their hands. When they agree, when the Cabal itself is threatened, there may be no more powerful and dangerous force in the entire cosmos.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

TBF this only applies to a veeeeery small group of mages. And I don't think a composite mage profile would work due to how varied the verse is.

 

[Ogbunabali]

Ok, yeah then they'd be above angels.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Individual angels and grand masters could have profiles but they'd be basically identical.

Maybe just have a profile for the most notable angel and a profile for the most notable grand master?

 

[Ogbunabali]

Probably, yeah.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Demon princes are equal to archangels iirc.

Also whose the demon the size of the abyss?

 

[Ogbunabali]

Bahamut.

So enormous is he that if he raises his head, he is at eye level with the edge of the Abyss; his extended tail and trunk would span the Abyss from side to side. Although crossing the Abyss by climbing along Bahamut would seem to be the most practical method, no Cabalist survives who admits trying it.
	~ Cabal​

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

"No cavaliers survives who admits trying it"

This possibly could include grand masters. 11-D demon princes is probably fine.