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(GRACE) Winnie the Pooh goes hunting for Muskoxen!

Can you explain pooh's Immortality? How could the muskox kill pooh permanently. Also how does Muskox open here?
 
Ebihara said:
Can you explain pooh's Immortality? How could the muskox kill pooh permanently. Also how does Muskox open here?
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Charging and goring. It's intelligent to adapt Pooh later on.

Ask supporters for Pooh, as far as I know, piercing damage and an AP advantage are the muskox's only counters
 
Pooh's type 2 immortality is the only one that is combat applicable. His types 3 and 4 are overtime. Pooh's type 2 allows him to survive being hit by a car and smashed into another car with enough force that it should destroy his ribs and spine, as well as endure beatings that no one could realistically survive.

The Muskoxen has a slight AP advantage. Pooh scales from crushing a human skull with his foot, which is a feat calculated here. The Muskoxen has its AP value listed on its profile as slightly higher.

Assuming that Pooh has standard equipment, I would give him the edge due to his weapons, pain tolerance, survivability, intelligence, and ability to summon bees. The Muskoxen has an advantage due to its strength and horns, but the gap is small enough that everything else Pooh has should get him the win despite a fairly hard battle.
 
Frieza_force_soldier_100 said:
The Muskoxen has a slight AP advantage. Pooh scales from crushing a human skull with his foot, which is a feat calculated here. The Muskoxen has its AP value listed on its profile as slightly higher.
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Did you use the correct link? I don't see the skull crushing calc anywhere.

Your other points are valid though.
 
Frieza_force_soldier_100 said:
Pooh's type 2 immortality is the only one that is combat applicable. His types 3 and 4 are overtime. Pooh's type 2 allows him to survive being hit by a car and smashed into another car with enough force that it should destroy his ribs and spine, as well as endure beatings that no one could realistically survive.

The Muskoxen has a slight AP advantage. Pooh scales from crushing a human skull with his foot, which is a feat calculated here. The Muskoxen has its AP value listed on its profile as slightly higher.

Assuming that Pooh has standard equipment, I would give him the edge due to his weapons, pain tolerance, survivability, intelligence, and ability to summon bees. The Muskoxen has an advantage due to its strength and horns, but the gap is small enough that everything else Pooh has should get him the win despite a fairly hard battle.
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I'm pretty sure Pooh is baseline 9-B. Also, the thread you linked is a versus thread with no calculations on it.
 
Frieza_force_soldier_100 said:
Wrong link. Here. https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...culation#Crushing_a_skull_with_your_foot_sole
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There's an entire thread regarding to the concerns of any 9-B skull crushing feat. You can read the rest but the gist here is that 9-B skull crushing can get inaccurate.
I've actually had the thought to recalc the common feat at back of my head. This is what it spat out.

(Length or width)(Force)
(500*9.80665) = 4903.325 N conversion

Length:
Men: 4903.325.176 = 862.9852 J
Women: 4903.325.171 = 838.468575 J
Width:
Men: 4903.325.145 = 710.982125 J
Women: 4903.325.140 = 686.4655 J

Long story short, skull crushing also spat out that no curbstomps could crush a skull, so it not only upscales from 2 KJ, but the thread about the calc concern has also came to a conclusion that skull-crushing yields 3-3.9 KJ based off of piercing rounds.
 
In that case, the Muskoxen would have a much bigger AP advantage, I believe. I suppose you can ask other users who have seen the Blood and Honey movies if Pooh has any more impressive feats (been a while since I saw them), but if this is right, it sounds like the Muskoxen may oneshot.
 
Frieza_force_soldier_100 said:
In that case, the Muskoxen would have a much bigger AP advantage, I believe. I suppose you can ask other users who have seen the Blood and Honey movies if Pooh has any more impressive feats (been a while since I saw them), but if this is right, it sounds like the Muskoxen may oneshot.
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What do you mean? Pooh does have AP 9-B feats, he can flip vehicles and take getting crushed by them. At the Muskox's level, they don't one hit kill things with comparable AP durability
 
Wait, I thought you guys said that skull crushing was now only around 4 KJ. He has other feats like lopping a man's hand off or tearing out a person's throat, but I was told those feats are only street level. If skull crushing really is that low now, I'm not sure if any of Pooh's feats actually are worthy of wall level. If he is truly worthy of wall level, I would give the edge to him due to the advantages mentioned above. However, it sounds like he should be downgraded. This is confusing.
 
Frieza_force_soldier_100 said:
Wait, I thought you guys said that skull crushing was now only around 4 KJ. He has other feats like lopping a man's hand off or tearing out a person's throat, but I was told those feats are only street level. If skull crushing really is that low now, I'm not sure if any of Pooh's feats actually are worthy of wall level. If he is truly worthy of wall level, I would give the edge to him due to the advantages mentioned above. However, it sounds like he should be downgraded. This is confusing.
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His stuff with vehicles should still be 9-B considering their raw power
 
Alright. For his type 2 immortality, superior stamina, intelligence, weapons, pain tolerance, and bee summoning, I give it to Pooh. However, it should be a fairly difficult fight.
 
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References for Common Feats

Throughout fiction and real life, there have been numerous feats demonstrating a certain character's or object's destructive power. This page's purpose is to consolidate calculations for those feats for better convenience in determining an object's or character's Attack Potency or Durability...
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Pooh probably scales to this. Christopher Robin was trying to kill him so he must have been going pretty fast. Pooh's own weapons can be used to harm him so they scale.
 
Anyway, gonna go with Pooh. I doubt the Muskox has that much of a shot even when its head is designed for head-on collisions.
 
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